Tankies are primed to shift their entire stance in a heartbeat (this is what actually happened in germany), but this brand of leftism is just about extinct in the US because of the cia injecting gay race free love horseshit into leftism in the 60s. But they *do* exist, and they *can* actually be reasonable to discuss topics with. This type is already extremely collectivist and is probably socially reactionary on a number of issues. Usually they are also against open borders and immigration (because of the fact that those workers get exploited, not because of race, but still leads to the same result)
Someone who genuinely wants equality and the best for all (TM) could be shifted if you approach it from the right angle. After all, this is by technicality what hitler wanted (on a global scale), just use the correct rhetoric and point out who is being exploitative over the third world, the poor, etc (it's jews still. In every case it is them).
The leftists that hate white people for existing and have endless white guilt and only seem to care about what identity movement of the week is popular are not really salvageable. Just hope that they can come to terms with reality on their own. This group is analogous with the right wing zionist conservative retard, which is also a class of people that cannot be rescued.
Furthermore, I consider that Israel must be destroyed
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I don't think so. Well, but it depends.
The underlying ideology of libtards is equality with the idea that everybody is equal. They are collectivists, so they see the world as a groups vs groups deathmatch, but instead of looking at themselves and choosing their actual groups (White male/female), they champion faggotry, niggers, feminism, Climate Change™ or some other bullshit (or all of them).
So the distance a leftists has to make to become NatSoc is effectively switching sides and stop championing other groups. For right-wingers it's about a change in mindset to stop seeing everything as "just individuals" and "exceptions" and "you never know because muh' individuals." However they are on track to have conservative/nationalist views.
With libtards it's like treason to their own stances, effectively betraying everything they stood for before (which were idiotic), while for right-wingers it's a change in mindset, but not a change in loyalties.
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Yes. And the reason they turn on israel is because they'll declare it a White Supremacist state that does colonialism and genocide against their precious brownoid victim class. They MAY however change their minds to realize that it's all about jews, so they could turn on them to a lesser degree... but as you said, it just makes them useful idiots.
The problem is that leftists are not rational. Facts and reality only tangentially affect them, often used to argue with people to whom ratio matters. But they can gloss over it without problems.
That goes for the most radical leftists, but apply half of that mindset to a regular person and it means it will take decades to bring information to them, and may possibly fail. They shut down conversations one way or another.
So we cannot communicate truth to them by the use of logic
So instead we must learn how to manipulate their emotional response mechanism better than the democrat party jew leadership does. What propaganda does a normie democrat respond to most? Something that pulls at their heart strings?
i'll be frank, i had more luck turning libtards who hates israel to listen to Hitler speeches than i'd had with "well adjusted conservatives" who watch TV like good little drones
and these conservatives hated niggers btw, but loved israel...
people's values stem from their personal interests - economic and political.
asking this is like asking is it possible to turn communists into winners at life. same answer. no. they're just the losers. do what has always been done: push them down into their place with force and celebrate those who do this well.
Tankies are primed to shift their entire stance in a heartbeat (this is what actually happened in germany), but this brand of leftism is just about extinct in the US because of the cia injecting gay race free love horseshit into leftism in the 60s. But they *do* exist, and they *can* actually be reasonable to discuss topics with. This type is already extremely collectivist and is probably socially reactionary on a number of issues. Usually they are also against open borders and immigration (because of the fact that those workers get exploited, not because of race, but still leads to the same result)
Someone who genuinely wants equality and the best for all (TM) could be shifted if you approach it from the right angle. After all, this is by technicality what hitler wanted (on a global scale), just use the correct rhetoric and point out who is being exploitative over the third world, the poor, etc (it's jews still. In every case it is them).
The leftists that hate white people for existing and have endless white guilt and only seem to care about what identity movement of the week is popular are not really salvageable. Just hope that they can come to terms with reality on their own. This group is analogous with the right wing zionist conservative retard, which is also a class of people that cannot be rescued.
Furthermore, I consider that Israel must be destroyed
The underlying ideology of libtards is equality with the idea that everybody is equal. They are collectivists, so they see the world as a groups vs groups deathmatch, but instead of looking at themselves and choosing their actual groups (White male/female), they champion faggotry, niggers, feminism, Climate Change™ or some other bullshit (or all of them).
So the distance a leftists has to make to become NatSoc is effectively switching sides and stop championing other groups. For right-wingers it's about a change in mindset to stop seeing everything as "just individuals" and "exceptions" and "you never know because muh' individuals." However they are on track to have conservative/nationalist views.
With libtards it's like treason to their own stances, effectively betraying everything they stood for before (which were idiotic), while for right-wingers it's a change in mindset, but not a change in loyalties.
for a libtard to change his alleigence to gay race communism that's... basically unthinkable
they might hate israel and the govt, but they're still only useful idiots.
It's not that radical a switch. They keep all their hate but just accept they were confusing jews with Supreme White Men. Just a slight modification.
That goes for the most radical leftists, but apply half of that mindset to a regular person and it means it will take decades to bring information to them, and may possibly fail. They shut down conversations one way or another.
So instead we must learn how to manipulate their emotional response mechanism better than the democrat party jew leadership does. What propaganda does a normie democrat respond to most? Something that pulls at their heart strings?
and these conservatives hated niggers btw, but loved israel...
so you see my struggle...
people's values stem from their personal interests - economic and political.
asking this is like asking is it possible to turn communists into winners at life. same answer. no. they're just the losers. do what has always been done: push them down into their place with force and celebrate those who do this well.