25 days ago6 points(+0/-0/+6Score on mirror)1 child
"Terrible" is subjective. Some of their stuff is garbage, but that's more to Morrison's addictions than to agitprop. You have to agree that the guitar work on "Spanish Caravan" is nothing short of virtuositc.
25 days ago3 points(+0/-0/+3Score on mirror)1 child
You probably like the Beatles as well. It's simply pop music with ungodly messages no different than the madonnas of today. There is power in repetition, even if you don't know the meaning behind the words, or if you don't think the words affect you, some songs shouldn't be sung.
25 days ago1 point(+0/-0/+1Score on mirror)1 child
I always though of the Beatles as children's music with how simple it was. 1234 ABCD 78910 altogether now! We all live in a yellow submarine. I am the walrus coocoocachoo. Here comes the sun do do do do. Hello. Hello hello. You say goodbye. I say hello. Hello hello.
Like they sound like music written for children to me, like something appropriate for a puppet show.
I think he was criticizing lyrics specifically and how the repetitive pop melodies cause people to sing along without consideration for what they're saying, he is suggesting that chanting lyrics can have a subliminal effect on the mental state of the listener. But I can't think of any terrible "ungodly" lyrics from the doors or the Beatles.
I'm criticizing their musicianship. While they might have a couple good moments (helter skelter), the Beatles popularized the minimalistic approach to music composition that we know as "pop music" today: maximum 4 chords per part, maximum 3 parts, every part repeats at least twice.
Yes, they were. Like most bands of the time, they didn't even play their instruments on their first album. Most new bands in the Laurel Canyon scene in the 60s did vocals only on their first albums because they just weren't very good musicians and had The Wrecking Crew, famous studio musicians, play the music uncredited.
The Doors were a live band on Sunset Blvd before their first album, and most people who remember them say they were terrible. But they didn't have to be good because their audience was extremely high and not very discerning. When you play for a room of acid heads, no one is going to notice that your music sucks.
Morrison was supposed to be a great poet, although he had never written anything prior to being in the band. He gets the idea to front a band and suddenly he has polished, sophisticated song lyrics for the band to put music to. Amazing! That's GOT to be true, and it's definitely not because US intelligence provided material and musicians for the band.
> Yeah, c'mon I love my girl She lookin' good C'mon One more
> Five to one, baby
> One in five
> No one here gets out alive, now
> You get yours, baby
> I'll get mine
> Gonna make it, baby If we try
What's the ratio being referenced here? You think this song is about people vs the state, but the people outnumber public officials far greater than 5:1 ratio. Maybe I'm wrong, but 5 to 1 doesn't sound like the correct ratio of common citizens to politicians or whatever.
> The old get old
> And the young get stronger
> May take a week
> And it may take longer
> They got the guns
> But we got the numbers
> Gonna win, yeah
> We're takin' over
> Come on!
This seems like the song is about dems vs republicans in a local area. "They got guns but" implies the other side doesn't, "we got numbers" implies they are a larger movement 5x the size. If I had to guess, this is a reference to the political divide in California.
> Your ballroom days are over, baby
> Night is drawing near
> Shadows of the evening
> Crawl across the years
"Ballroom days" likely is a reference to a more classical time when music was sophisticated and formal. Makes sense for the 1960s.
> Ya walk across the floor with a flower in your hand
> Trying to tell me no one understands
Idk what this part means
> Trade in your hours for a handful of dimes
> Gonna' make it, baby, in our prime
Probably sarcastically complaining about low wages or the spread of drugs "dimes"
> Come together one more time
> Get together one more time
> Get together one more time
> Get together, aha
> Get together one more time!
> Get together one more time!
> Get together one more time!
> Get together one more time!
> Get together one more time!
> Get together, got to, get together
One more time? That was ten lol typical shitty pop music.
> Hey, c'mon, honey
> You won't have a long wait for me, baby
> I'll be there in just a little while
> You see, I gotta go out in this car with these people and
Revelation of the method, here he is admitting his obligation to "these people".
> Get together one more time
> Get together one more time
> Get together, got to
> Get together, got to
> Get together, got to
> Take you up in my room and
> Hah-hah-hah-hah-hah
> Love my girl
> She looking good, looking real good
> Love you, come on
Dude can't not sing about sex in any one song.
Anyways, I don't think that scared any proponents of the state, a proponent of the state probably wrote it.
25 days ago4 points(+0/-0/+4Score on mirror)2 children
(((They))) obviously used music to induce cultural changes, regardless of how bad it sounds. Look at the salacious lyrics of 70s and 80s rock and roll for instance (such as Whole Lotta Love from Led Zeppelin)
Zeppelin is overrated too, almost all their songs were ripoffs of old blues tunes and Plant and Page were pedos. I think I remember that one of them married an 18yo in their 70s but that's the least damning story.
Of course you love the music. You grew up with it and it was scientifically designed to hook your subconscious using centuries-old cadences, metronome-perfect timing and binaural drones. My point is that *mainstream music* is controlled and heavily regulated. And there are very few exceptions where a musician achieved fame to the point of radio play via an actual grassroots following.
In that sense, classic rock is similar to modern pop music (especially the oversexualized lyrics). Music played with real instruments is obviously better. But if we were to only listen to radio for our music today, it would be very similar to the monoculture of music that was the 60s and 70s. Then basically all of them started experimenting with *disco* and using synthesizers. Fans hate to remember the dark, depressing, disco era that transitioned their beloved "classic rock" (pop) music into the slop it is today.
Like they sound like music written for children to me, like something appropriate for a puppet show.
I'm criticizing their musicianship. While they might have a couple good moments (helter skelter), the Beatles popularized the minimalistic approach to music composition that we know as "pop music" today: maximum 4 chords per part, maximum 3 parts, every part repeats at least twice.