13 hours ago10 points(+0/-0/+10Score on mirror)3 children
My sister (mid 30s) is on it and while she has lost ~100lbs over the past 18 months, she also looks like she's aged 10-15 years. She was fat but before but now she looks like a drug addict/anorexic person
yeah, it kills peoples skin elasticity and muscle mass in addition to the getting rid of the fat. Its just a way to prevent people from eating without them actually changing their habits. it will make them permanently addicted to it.
There are also unknown side effects, some which are being flushed out now. There was a news article that some woman went blind while using it. It is disrupting some peoples organ functions too, GI tracts, etc.
In 10-20 years there will be enough data for a class action lawsuit for it. You will see TV ads that will say: "HAVE YOU OR SOMEONE IN YOUR FAMILY USED OZEMPIC IN THE LAST 20 YEARS? YOU MAY BE ENTITLED TO COMPENSATION"
13 hours ago7 points(+0/-0/+7Score on mirror)2 children
I'm in the middle of a text conversation with my sister about her being on it, and I've been trying to talk her into stopping. A text from her just popped up while typing this. I'm sure it's some excuse about how dieting magically won't work. Is it a woman thing, or are guys this retarded too?
Edit: she's switching to some new peptide. Latest and greatest, apparently. I don't even argue anymore. Just go "oh, cool. Good luck."
11 hours ago3 points(+0/-0/+3Score on mirror)1 child
The worst thing with my sister's use of it is that she has cleaned up her eating and exercises regularly so she's already developed the habit of being more healthy.
The reason she initially got on it was because she was so fat and out of shape that she couldn't keep up in the fitness classes she went too. Now she can do push ups and pulls ups, but looks like the life has been sucked out of her. She won't get off of it because she thinks the weight will all come back but of she keeps her current routine there is no reason why it would.
I fear she has taken years off her life from this drug, moreso than if she just stayed obese.
Ozempic definitely plays into the Instant Gratification/FOMO mindset thar the kikes have instilled in people.
>She won't get off of it because she thinks the weight will all come back but of she keeps her current routine there is no reason why it would.
No matter how many time I explained to people that it's their habits that dictate their weight, they won't listen. It's hard to comprehend what's going on in their heads. I ask them to keep track of their intake on an app, before, during or after using the meds, but they won't do it. They probably don't want to recognize reality.
13 hours ago1 point(+0/-0/+1Score on mirror)1 child
I'd like to say "no", but I just got back on the self-control train after gaining 15lbs back of the 70+ I lost with proper diet, portion control and exercise. It's really easy to slip off the train and get complacent.
That's a fact. What works for me, more than anything, is having a cheat day and accepting that my cut phases will just have slower progress. Plus, I bulk in the winter too, so I get a prolonged mental break anyway. Today's actually day 1 of my cut phase.
Nice. I hit the deck running hard on Ash Wednesday with a low-calorie fast through today. This usually resets my portion control clock. I don't mind being a bit hungry either, now. Keeps me honest.
There are a number of celebrities who look horrible. Many of them weren't fat to begin with.
But, if the outward appearance is any indication on what is happening internally, they're fucked. They look like someone in their last year of their terminal illness.
Imagine an authoritarian nation where everyone was forcibly in some type of armed/community service, and they were required until the age of 60 to meet strict physical requirements.
It's all three. Fat is also mid stream. There are causes of fatness but fatness also causes additional problems. Shitty diet plus poor lifestyle leads to obesity, fertility issues, diabetes, asthma, heart disease, blood pressure issues, heart issues, joint issues, trips and falls, bone fragility, and on and on and on. Then the resulting lack of productivity, income less households, etc tertiary effects.
13 hours ago-2 points(+0/-0/-2Score on mirror)3 children
While this post's heart is in the right place, it's not about "energy out > energy in." The whole concept of "calories" is jewish fake and gay. It's a very retarded notion to believe that every single body somehow generates the exact same amount of ATP from any particular food source, or that the quality of that food source is irrelevant to the amount of energy produced, or all the other specific nuances from each specific food source. The reality is, it doesn't matter how much or how little you exercise if you're surrounded by constant goyslop and other jewish toxins like EMFs, chemtrails and microplastics. A medieval scribe who ate nothing but real food like stonemilled einkorn fresh bread and never lifted anything heavier than some books and didn't exercise more than climbing some stairs once a day had more muscle and was far more healthy and fit than today's "health influencers" on social media that try eating carnivore or keto or paleo or whatever.
12 hours ago4 points(+0/-0/+4Score on mirror)1 child
People can do indirect calorimetry to get a better idea of their own metabolic needs. It's definitely different per person. But then, once you have a baseline established (you can do this by guessing and adjusting, instead of expensive tests), it's about doing the calories in, calories out thing for yourself. Adjust, check back a week later, adjust again, if needed, etc... That's what RDNs do for a living. When they actually have a patient that will listen.
Okay, so explain to me how I could eat 3000+ calories of perfect quality protein, fat and carbs and still remained stuck at 105 pounds as a 5'9" man in my 20s despite exercising every day with weight resistance training.
Indirect calorimetry will show the absorption levels for each of the macros, which vary by person. You may have low protein absorption compared to the normal person. That's why you have to find your own baseline and adjust from there. Plus, you could be highly active. At one point, my baseline was 3,700 calories per day, because of how active I was with work, martial arts and the gym.
For your situation, carbs and fat would probably have been a better option for bulking. Things like honey roasted peanuts/cashews are probably the easiest option for high calories that are cheap and quick.
It doesn't matter how angry you are at me, the fact remains that you weren't in a calorie surplus for that 7 years. The same way I ate 3,700 calories a day and wasn't in a surplus.
Also, another thought just popped into my head. How long and how consistently did you stay on that diet? If it was short term or inconsistent, you might have not given it enough time and dedication to produce results.
And separately, did you get your T levels checked? I went through a period of not being able to gain muscle because my T and crashed after using OTC steroids. Basically legal version of steroids that the Vitamin Shop uses to see before they got banned. They totally nukes my HPTA axis. Took over a year to recover.
I stayed on that diet for 7 straight years, to a neurotic level of dedication and accuracy because I had massive chronic chest pains when I ate anything even the slightest bit of potential goyslop. Yes, my testosterone when I was 105 pounds in February 2014 as a 24 year old man was off the charts high and still is. My weight and health are back now, but no thanks to "calories" or "functional medicine."
10 hours ago-2 points(+0/-0/-2Score on mirror)2 children
You sound kind of retarded to blindly believe in jewish lies with no evidence or proof behind them, and infinity evidence and proof against them. Explain to me how I could eat 3000+ calories of perfect quality protein fat and carbs in my 20s as a 5'9" male and remain stuck at 105 pounds despite doing rigorous resistance strength training almost daily? I am no longer 105 pounds or in my 20s and eat far fewer calories today and my weight is a perfect 165.
10 hours ago1 point(+0/-0/+1Score on mirror)1 child
You're trying to completely dismiss a broader discussion here. Obviously your body uses different materials differently. However, the concept of calories is that your body is converting mass into useable energy. It's a chemical reaction. So there has to be a measure of consumption to output. Hence calories.
Okay but when goyslop says it's low calorie yet makes you fat despite you exercising a lot and eating high calorie fatty red meat doesn't make you fat despite you not exercising a lot, that's the issue. Calories are fake and gay. Just eat real food normally. It has nothing to do with "calories."
10 hours ago-1 points(+0/-0/-1Score on mirror)1 child
Your hang up is efficiency. Red meat has a low glucose level, which means that meat consumed is consumed and not stored. Carbohydrates are easily converted into glucose, which is then stored by the body. Hence why cutting carbs, cutting soda, cutting beer instantly means losing the jutting gut.
Calories are real, but not every consumable thing is built of the same thing. Man will benefit more from 300 calories of meat rather than 300 calories of grains.
Counting calories to limit the total amount you take in works, regardless of the source of the calories, if you mesure acurately.
Verrified by studies where food intake is monitored in a controlled environment where participants cannot sneak-in extra food.
Verrified by my own personal experience managing my weight and doing the same for my mother to help her get rid of T2 diabetes. She ate the same sugary craps, but in smaller portions to limit the calories in and lose weight. Still got rid of her T2 diabetes.
On the other hand we have your unverrifiable claim from years ago.
You do realize 99% of all $tudies are jewish fake and gay, right? The same "verified by studies" claims you make also say things like saturated fat causes heart disease, vaccines are safe and sugar alcohols are healthy. lmao. People can cut calories and exercise more but still be overweight and unhealthy because they're eating goyslop food. Meanwhile, you can eat a ton of healthy calories and never exercise and lose weight and build muscle. "Unverifiable claim" is pointless in a world of jewish deception and lies. My experience disproves your belief, and it remains that simple.
There are also unknown side effects, some which are being flushed out now. There was a news article that some woman went blind while using it. It is disrupting some peoples organ functions too, GI tracts, etc.
In 10-20 years there will be enough data for a class action lawsuit for it. You will see TV ads that will say: "HAVE YOU OR SOMEONE IN YOUR FAMILY USED OZEMPIC IN THE LAST 20 YEARS? YOU MAY BE ENTITLED TO COMPENSATION"
Edit: she's switching to some new peptide. Latest and greatest, apparently. I don't even argue anymore. Just go "oh, cool. Good luck."
The reason she initially got on it was because she was so fat and out of shape that she couldn't keep up in the fitness classes she went too. Now she can do push ups and pulls ups, but looks like the life has been sucked out of her. She won't get off of it because she thinks the weight will all come back but of she keeps her current routine there is no reason why it would.
I fear she has taken years off her life from this drug, moreso than if she just stayed obese.
Ozempic definitely plays into the Instant Gratification/FOMO mindset thar the kikes have instilled in people.
No matter how many time I explained to people that it's their habits that dictate their weight, they won't listen. It's hard to comprehend what's going on in their heads. I ask them to keep track of their intake on an app, before, during or after using the meds, but they won't do it. They probably don't want to recognize reality.
But, if the outward appearance is any indication on what is happening internally, they're fucked. They look like someone in their last year of their terminal illness.
He probably has stakes in the company himself