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We have always been the target of satan and his synagogue because for a reason. We've been warned for the last five centuries, and the people who trust Jesus will carry His cross until he comes back to deliver justice.
> Fallen Church
Because I'm not a quitter. That what my family believed for centuries, that's how I was saved, and that's what I'm teaching to my kids. The Church is not a bunch of heretic Churchmen. She is the mystical body of Christ, she is his bride, she is the people who truly believes in the Eucharist.
> protestant background
I'm truly happy that you found your path. I on the other hand was born and baptized Roman Catholic. Then I left the Church for 25 years after my first communion because the Novus Ordo was designed to do so. Then the Holy Mother brought me back with a proof of faith which was a literal miracle.
> TLM
Because the faith resides in the belief of the true presence of Christ in the Eucharist. Without a proper mass that can't happen. That's why most Catholics today can be considered liberal protestants. Even though you're an Orthodox you should try it not to change your beliefs but to experience the Church how Jesus tended.
> SSPX
They're not the only ones out there. There's the Fraternity of Saint Peter aka FSSP, and many undercover priests and bishops of other denominations who are fighting for Jesus gift to us. I attend one of such celebrated by Ambrosian priests.
> Mat 7:13
Not everyone is going to be saved. Pray for them, do what Jesus told us to do, and trust hang in there.
The Church can never fall. How can you have Vatican 1 and 2? How can you have your recent popes? The pope being infallible, kissing the Quran, having ecumenical councils with all kinds of Satanists, having literal sexual clown shows.
> Even though you're an Orthodox you should try it not to change your beliefs but to experience the Church how Jesus tended.
I should try it? I attend liturgy every Sunday and the feast days my work let's me have off. Every Saturday I attend vespers. Every week I hear Saint Basil the Great's or Saint Chrysostom's liturgy.
> There's the Fraternity of Saint Peter aka FSSP, and many undercover priests and bishops of other denominations who are fighting for Jesus gift to us. I attend one of such celebrated by Ambrosian priests.
Very interesting, and I am happy for you.
Lord Jesus Christ, son of God, for the sake of the prayers of Thy most pure Mother, our holy and God-bearing fathers and all the saints, have mercy on us.
True. But she will suffer nevertheless.
https://catholicgentleman.com/2017/02/the-passion-of-the-church/
In sum these corrupt Churchmen are not my Church. I gave you three hints in my previous reply, one being a quote from the book of Matthew.
> I should try it?
Yes you should. You're a new convert from protestantism, and I appreciate the fervor you bring. But we've been here in the long run, and as such we have a different perspective on things. But before doing it I propose to you something different. Pick up a Bible, pray a Holy Father, and ask the Holy Spirit for virtue or faith. Then open the Bible and pick a Gospel from Matthew 3 onwards, start reading for half to an hour, and see what happens.
Edit: damn autocorrect!
Easy question. Do you deny the pope?
>>I should try it?
>Yes you should.
Where? I live in Sweden. Find me Catholics that deny the pope, Vatican 1 and 2, celebrate a real liturgi, and I will.
I also like to mention that Peter created the church in Antioch before he created the one in Rome, and that Orthodox church still stands and thrives. I visit it here in Sweden frequently. So the rock still stands. Whereas the church in Rome is filled with heretical abominations.
I read the Gospel an hour per day, in addition to morning and evening prayers.
I searched Sweden on the link below and there are a few options. Though I don't know how far from you these are. There's one with a daily TLM which I would love, but where I live I consider myself lucky to have one Sunday even though I have to drive one hour.
Even though it's true the Roman Catholic Church does have a lot of bad fruit don't be quick to judge as you may suffer for it according to Matthew 7:1-2.
Awesome that you read the bible one hour a day. Most people for do that in a year. But I asked you to pray before a Holy Father and to as the Holy Spirit for virtue of faith. That's completely different from studying the Bible. You'll see.
That's a new one for me.
> I searched Sweden on the link below and there are a few options.
I am not looking to attend any Catholic latin non-novus ordo mass. I am looking for a Catholic church that denies the current pope (and some of the previous ones), and deny Vatican 1 and 2. Then I will actually take time to attend one and hopefully speak to them afterwards. I didn't find one in Sweden. The closest to me is in the UK.
I do not pass judgement. It's not just some of the fruit that is bad. The infallible leader of the Catholic church is not following Gods teachings. The core dogma of the Catholic church has been changed, you are telling me about it so you know it has happened. I tell the truth to guide the sheep to the shepherd. God will judge.
> Awesome that you read the bible one hour a day. Most people for do that in a year. But I asked you to pray before a Holy Father and to as the Holy Spirit for virtue of faith. That's completely different from studying the Bible. You'll see.
I don't know what a Holy Father is according to the Catholic church. Is it the church Fathers? I got icons of many of them and I pray my morning and evening prayers in front of them, ask them to pray for me, and kiss them. Is it the Lords prayer? I pray the "standard" prayers of the Orthodox prayer book. Trisagion, troparion's, psalms, the creed, prayers to the Theotokos, prayers to the Holy Spirit, prayers to my guardian angel, prayers by Saints Makarios the Great, Holy Antiochos, John Chrysostom, Petros the Studite, John Damascenes, and Basil the Great (I might be butchering their English names, my bad).
Why I mentioned the Bible is because you followed that by saying:
> Then open the Bible and pick a Gospel from Matthew 3 onwards, start reading for half to an hour, and see what happens.