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Hey guys,

I'm in very good shape physically but my mental health isn't as great as I'd like.

I'm thinking a missing component is needing to cut out caffeine.

I exercise regularly, eat very well, don't smoke, rarely drink, etc.

My DHEA levels are low, but aside from that, nothing hormonal is off. I'd rather fix this issue naturally than supplement, if possible, as I've heard low DHEA is correlated with fatigue.

My question: have any of you here cut out caffeine and what affects did this have on your life?
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27 comments:
alele-opathic on scored.co
11 hours ago 4 points (+0 / -0 / +4Score on mirror ) 1 child
Cutting it out? Brain fog completely disappeared.

I flip-flop between on and off as sometimes you simply can't beat the quicker pace you move at with caffeine. When I noticed that I even walk and talk faster, it felt like a cheat code aimed at high performance individuals. The brain fog is a huge deal-breaker when you have mentally-strenuous work to get done though.

If you have a STEM career, you don't really have a choice. Use it when you need to sprint, cut it out a day or two in advance of making big decisions.
Thenoticingcontinues on scored.co
9 hours ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
That's great; brain fog is mainly what I'm wanting to combat.
BlippiIsAPedo on scored.co
11 hours ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror ) 1 child
I cut caffeine out. I feel great. I start my mornings with 15-20 grams of creatine in a glass of water now. Its great.
Thenoticingcontinues on scored.co
11 hours ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
Mg or grams?
BlippiIsAPedo on scored.co
11 hours ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
Grams. Good catch
Thenoticingcontinues on scored.co
11 hours ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
Had you tried 5g before the above standard dose before increasing? What difference did you notice? How long til benefits were felt?
BlippiIsAPedo on scored.co
11 hours ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
I dont remember to all your questions. I work out almost daily. I have a few kids. I used to always be tired. Now I pretty much operate fine until bedtime.
ColloidalUranium on scored.co
10 hours ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror ) 1 child
Caffeine should be consumed situationally, maybe a few times a month. Long term energy problems need to be solved with lifestyle solutions.
failingpainter on scored.co
1 hour ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
Absolutely
PhomasTaine on scored.co
9 hours ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror ) 2 children
Hello, i dont know if this relates to you, i took a genetic test (this was in 2017 btw) and found out i have MTHFR, or i guess half of the genetic disease. Certain people can have both genes mutated, which leads to increased "laziness" and chemical imbalance of release of the "happy" chemicals. They told me to not eat red meat, and take some brain supplements, i still eat red meat tho :)

I dont know if the only way to test for it is genetic testing, as im not very knowledgable on this subject aside from cursory aspects. But certain vitamins dont get properly absorbed, especially if double mthfr, i think its b12, and amino acids...
ImBillCurtis on scored.co
2 hours ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
Uhhh what? Red meat is the best source of bioavaialble B vitamins.
PhomasTaine on scored.co
1 hour ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
In the context of mtfhr, its not the bio-availability thats the issue, certain processes (methlyzation) are slowed with the b12, its more that the mutation makes it so it doesnt process unless its a different chemical compound.

Your mileage may vary, certain people get headaches after red meat with mthfr.
ImBillCurtis on scored.co
1 hour ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
Yeah you need methylfolate. I take supplements and it help big time
PhomasTaine on scored.co
1 hour ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
Just ordered some, ty
ImBillCurtis on scored.co
1 hour ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
Give it a shot for a few weeks. You might get a headache, so taper down if thst happens.
Thenoticingcontinues on scored.co
9 hours ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
Yes, I have this but haven't found good enough support beyond take a million diff supplements.

I didn't know red meat was an issue, I eat a lot. I'll try cutting it out and see.

I ordered some good b12 injectables I'm going to take.
PhomasTaine on scored.co
4 hours ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
Ok, as much as reddit sucks, there is a mtfhr subreddit, and those guys are really smart people imho.

Good luck with it all :)
devotech2 on scored.co
9 hours ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror ) 1 child
It affects everyone differently. Recently I've been drinking probably about 10-12 cups of loose leaf tea a day since I bought a real tea set from Japan (I know, its a lot. I Love tea, must be the english in me), but I cannot say that I feel much different at all even drinking up to sometimes several hundred milligrams of caffeine a day (depending on the tea I fancy on a particular day). And I don't think much would be different if I cut out the tea, despite the fact that I would miss the tea and be distraught over losing a daily ritual.

 Of course, it's tea. Probably the most healthy source of caffeine you can consume. It may be different if you cut out energy drinks or coffee or something.

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failingpainter on scored.co
1 hour ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
Yes tea is a game changer. Green in particular with the calming l theanine
Breadpilled on scored.co
5 hours ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
Yeah I did halfway through last year. It was actually due to necessity rather than choice, as I was suffering from a severe esophageal burn, and consuming anything acidic was a hard no go.

Blessing in disguise. I have way more energy than I ever did drinking it, and I was only mildly addicted (one 24oz cup of drip coffee daily.)

But I was kind of shocked to discover how addicted I was to even that modest amount. Every time I woke up, my #1 priority was getting caffeinated ASAP, to avoid the onset of a headache and fatigue. I couldn't *shit* without it. And detoxing from it unironically took around two months, with variably intense withdrawal symptoms ebbing and flowing throughout that period.

After finally getting completely clean, I now find that even having a single 16oz coffee causes me a noticeable headache 1-2 days later. I couldn't believe that's what I was throttling my system with daily for years. I figure something that messes with your body that viscerally can't be healthy to chronically consume.

So if anything, I think one of the strongest reasons to quit it is self mastery. This is absolutely a substance that enslaves you and forces you to structure your life around it, no different from weed or porn. But caffeine, especially coffee, is the least stigmatized of the bunch by far, so the will to quit has to be entirely self-generated.
RamboDrivesALambo on scored.co
12 hours ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
I've read that a little caffeine is actually good for your telomeres, helps to keep them from breaking down as quickly.
Thenoticingcontinues on scored.co
11 hours ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
(((Peer reviewed)))?
RamboDrivesALambo on scored.co
9 hours ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
This was over ten years ago, don't get me lying.
Delroy on scored.co
10 hours ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
I haven't had bloodwork done, but I've started and stopped caffine a few times. I haven't noticed a positive effect of going off it. My take is they it gives you a small boost in alertness, but has the downside that its harder to "rest". Not too big a deal either way unless you drink it in the evening, which I never do.
AgnosticTemplar on scored.co
10 hours ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
At my peak I was drinking the equivalent of three to four energy drinks of caffeine a day, I've cut back to only two cups of coffee in the morning and I'm feeling much better. I'm trying to lose weight, once I lose another 20 and get below 200lbs I'll try skipping the morning coffee a couple days a week to see how that goes.
PhomasTaine on scored.co
10 hours ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
Im a caffeine and nicotine connosieur (sp?) My dad used to drink 10ish cups of coffee black a day when he was designing coal fired boilers.

I drink about 2 cups of coffee a day, with the occasional energy drink, but i still vape 50mg/ml vape juice out of a box mod at 17 watts and .19 ohms. Been doing that for about 10 years now.

My appetite is muted because of the nic and caff and i probably eat 1800 calories a day. I couldnt imagine giving up nicotine personally. Easily my most loved substance to abuse/enjoy with minimal downsides imho.
failingpainter on scored.co
1 hour ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
Eat lots of whole eggs, and ground beef. That will fix your dhea issue via cholesterol which will turn into dhea, which then converts to testosterone. Coffee if good but only in small dosages. I drink three cups a week, one before each workout. Cutting it completely can help lower cortisol, which will also help with a whole multitude of things
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