The ability to interbreed indicates they are the same species. If they were merely in the same genus the children of interbreeding would be sterile, like the offspring of lions and tigers or horses and donkeys.
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> The ability to interbreed indicates they are the same species.
The fact that there are species that can interbreed and are considered different species implies that it is not necessary for them to be the same species in order to reproduce.
Them being infertile is one outcome that makes it clear, but in this case we just have to rely on the fact that mongrels are undesirable recluses, opposed by Whites and niggers alike, as they do not fit in either cultures. Thus rendering them genetic dead-ends indirectly.
The fact that there are species that can interbreed and are considered different species implies that it is not necessary for them to be the same species in order to reproduce.
Them being infertile is one outcome that makes it clear, but in this case we just have to rely on the fact that mongrels are undesirable recluses, opposed by Whites and niggers alike, as they do not fit in either cultures. Thus rendering them genetic dead-ends indirectly.
Fuck niggers.
BUT, you don't understand the science concerning genus and species and have created a strange Frankenstein theory based on opinion
BUT, you don't understand the science concerning genus and species and have created a strange Frankenstein theory based on opinion
Psst. There are multiple species *across genuses* that can interbreed. **Haldane’s Rule** applies to the children of miscegenation between the five human species.
I learned something today
>Yes, animals from different genera can interbreed, producing viable offspring, though it's less common than within the same genus; notable examples include camels and llamas (Cama), bison and cows (Beefalo/Dzo), sturgeon and paddlefish (Sturddlefish), and various snake species, demonstrating that taxonomic boundaries, especially at the genus level, don't always prevent genetic exchange.
Thank you.
You're still a retarded fucking insane asylum candidate, though, you worthless fucking cunt.
>Yes, animals from different genera can interbreed, producing viable offspring, though it's less common than within the same genus; notable examples include camels and llamas (Cama), bison and cows (Beefalo/Dzo), sturgeon and paddlefish (Sturddlefish), and various snake species, demonstrating that taxonomic boundaries, especially at the genus level, don't always prevent genetic exchange.
Thank you.
You're still a retarded fucking insane asylum candidate, though, you worthless fucking cunt.
I know enough about niggers to understand that the differences are so vast, that considering them "human" is an insult to humans.
Their average IQ is around 60-70 - meaning the most of them are unable to entertain hypotheticals or have the cognitive capacity for empathy. They build mudhuts and have no concept of art, literature, architecture, technology. Their tribes do not even have fathers - the males just fuck the females randomly, who then get pregnant, and the "village" plus their mothers care for the children.
Cannibalism and "raping babies to cure AIDS" is also a thing. Their population size is defined by the free gibs that is hauled from us to them - meaning they grow their population until they start starving again. The moment we stop giving them food, it's a massive starvation event rapidly reducing their population size to whatever they can sustain on their own.
Their skull shape is vastly different, providing less room for the part of the brain that operates cognitive processes. Their mandible being pushed forward is a strong indicator of low intelligence in the realm of mental retardation - but it's just natural variance for them.
Then there are the niggers in our midst that show their true colors. Gang rapes, professional criminals, even getting into jail needlessly, extreme rates of murder, massive welfare leeching, lack of intelligence, creativity, work ethics, loud in public transportation, the weird "snapping" behavior.
Given all these peculiarities, the actual differences that can be listed are more vast than those between dogs and coyotes.
So what do you have to provide as counter-argument actually? So far it was just that in theory race-mixed offspring can reproduce, which isn't a particularly strong argument.
Their average IQ is around 60-70 - meaning the most of them are unable to entertain hypotheticals or have the cognitive capacity for empathy. They build mudhuts and have no concept of art, literature, architecture, technology. Their tribes do not even have fathers - the males just fuck the females randomly, who then get pregnant, and the "village" plus their mothers care for the children.
Cannibalism and "raping babies to cure AIDS" is also a thing. Their population size is defined by the free gibs that is hauled from us to them - meaning they grow their population until they start starving again. The moment we stop giving them food, it's a massive starvation event rapidly reducing their population size to whatever they can sustain on their own.
Their skull shape is vastly different, providing less room for the part of the brain that operates cognitive processes. Their mandible being pushed forward is a strong indicator of low intelligence in the realm of mental retardation - but it's just natural variance for them.
Then there are the niggers in our midst that show their true colors. Gang rapes, professional criminals, even getting into jail needlessly, extreme rates of murder, massive welfare leeching, lack of intelligence, creativity, work ethics, loud in public transportation, the weird "snapping" behavior.
Given all these peculiarities, the actual differences that can be listed are more vast than those between dogs and coyotes.
So what do you have to provide as counter-argument actually? So far it was just that in theory race-mixed offspring can reproduce, which isn't a particularly strong argument.
>The moment we stop giving them food, it's a massive starvation event rapidly reducing their population size to whatever they can sustain on their own.
Moreover, this is so normal for them that they have cultural responses to make it go smoother.
What do Whites do in famine times? Make sacrifices for their children. We know that either the natural phenomenon will pass or we will find a way to deal with it so we try to keep the next generation alive as well as we can until that time.
Whenever you watch a World Vision ad, what do you see? Starving children. Adults are fine, but the children are skeletons. I think it's a cultural response to famine; let the children die to get the population under control more quickly. They *never* solve the problems caused by drough so they sacrifice their children to survive.
Moreover, this is so normal for them that they have cultural responses to make it go smoother.
What do Whites do in famine times? Make sacrifices for their children. We know that either the natural phenomenon will pass or we will find a way to deal with it so we try to keep the next generation alive as well as we can until that time.
Whenever you watch a World Vision ad, what do you see? Starving children. Adults are fine, but the children are skeletons. I think it's a cultural response to famine; let the children die to get the population under control more quickly. They *never* solve the problems caused by drough so they sacrifice their children to survive.
Btw: "Can wolves and coyotes interbreed?"
> Yes, wolves and coyotes can interbreed because they are both in the Canis genus and share the same number of chromosomes (78), creating fertile offspring known as coywolves (or wolfotes) that have adapted to various North American environments, especially in the East where wolf populations declined, allowing coyotes to breed with remaining wolves and dogs.
> Yes, wolves and coyotes can interbreed because they are both in the Canis genus and share the same number of chromosomes (78), creating fertile offspring known as coywolves (or wolfotes) that have adapted to various North American environments, especially in the East where wolf populations declined, allowing coyotes to breed with remaining wolves and dogs.
Everything you believe is wrong. You know fucking nothing about genetics. Hush.
Unrelated to the point, but related to the graph: I find it somewhat bizarre that east asians cluster with Polynesians more than central asians. But, again, "east asian" itself is a rather loaded term. Mongolians and the northern Chinese are east Asian, but are assuredly closer to turkics than they are to Polynesians. While vietnamese would likely be closer to Polynesians. Cambodians, Burmese, etc fall under the purview of "east asian" but are phenotypically almost closer to dravidians than a northeastern asian *or* a Polynesian. And then the Japanese are northeastern mongoloid mixed with the ainu, who are pretty much an isolate that have been on the archipelago since before the east-west eurasian split, which is why they look so ethnically ambiguous/"eurasian"
I'm also curious where other groups sit on this graph as well, I want to see Europe's clustering divided based off of region. Do northeastern Europeans huddle closer to asians than Southern Europeans do? What about the Finno ugrics? Who are white, but asiatic
Furthermore, I consider that Israel must be destroyed
I'm also curious where other groups sit on this graph as well, I want to see Europe's clustering divided based off of region. Do northeastern Europeans huddle closer to asians than Southern Europeans do? What about the Finno ugrics? Who are white, but asiatic
Furthermore, I consider that Israel must be destroyed
The purest Europeans are those descendants of European hunter gatherers. Genetic analysis of Cro-magnon and their descendants show that they are the purest europeans.
Everyone in Europe is a descendant of WHG but zero people are pure descendants of them or even majority descendants of them. Technically, the balts are the most descended from WHG, but conversely they are also the most descended from groups that descended from the far east (proto indo european and uralic), who were the most foreign people in Europe at the time. Thus its a toss up.
But, to be entirely honest with you, WHG was probably the least impressive of the major groups in the European gene pool. They might have been the most physically robust, but that's about the only thing about them that's really noteworthy. They built nothing and left very little legacy behind. The Neolithic farmers brought the building blocks for civilization, and the yamnaya brought the entirety of european culture. Those 2 being combined really created the nucleus of Europe's existence and proliferation.
Furthermore, I consider that Israel must be destroyed.
But, to be entirely honest with you, WHG was probably the least impressive of the major groups in the European gene pool. They might have been the most physically robust, but that's about the only thing about them that's really noteworthy. They built nothing and left very little legacy behind. The Neolithic farmers brought the building blocks for civilization, and the yamnaya brought the entirety of european culture. Those 2 being combined really created the nucleus of Europe's existence and proliferation.
Furthermore, I consider that Israel must be destroyed.
> They might have been the most physically robust, but that's about the only thing about them that's really noteworthy.
That's the only thing that matters lmao, having a chad skull
>. They built nothing and left very little legacy behind.
Hunter gatherer civilizations in general don't really have a genetic selection for high intelligence
Also didn't the farmers mix with the hunter gatherers to build stonehenge?
That's the only thing that matters lmao, having a chad skull
>. They built nothing and left very little legacy behind.
Hunter gatherer civilizations in general don't really have a genetic selection for high intelligence
Also didn't the farmers mix with the hunter gatherers to build stonehenge?
>Hunter gatherer civilizations in general don't really have a genetic selection for high intelligence
Modern ones, no. But all modern hunter gatherers live in the global south. Surviving in the cold north requires intelligence. WHG was most certainly *intelligent*, they just simply did not use their intelligence for much beyond surviving, though they did not really have the best selection of resources at hand either.
>Also didn't the farmers mix with the hunter gatherers to build stonehenge?
Yes, but this was mostly the brainchild of the farmers as they were the dominant element culturally and paternally in Europe at the time. The hunter gatherers simply showed that they were indeed intelligent enough to continue this process of what the farmers had already been doing in places like anatolia onward.
The WHG were specialists of the land, the farmers were specialists at building. The yamnaya were specialists at warfare, though pretty much all the major tianyuan descendants seem to have had a thing for expansion and violence, northern eurasians are pretty much the only people who have ever had enormous martial empires. Near Eastern people would usually only conquer others for being nuisances or because they had to. Even the arab expansion of Islam can be blamed on the Arabs playing "monkey see monkey do" with the Roman empire
Furthermore, I consider that Israel must be destroyed
Modern ones, no. But all modern hunter gatherers live in the global south. Surviving in the cold north requires intelligence. WHG was most certainly *intelligent*, they just simply did not use their intelligence for much beyond surviving, though they did not really have the best selection of resources at hand either.
>Also didn't the farmers mix with the hunter gatherers to build stonehenge?
Yes, but this was mostly the brainchild of the farmers as they were the dominant element culturally and paternally in Europe at the time. The hunter gatherers simply showed that they were indeed intelligent enough to continue this process of what the farmers had already been doing in places like anatolia onward.
The WHG were specialists of the land, the farmers were specialists at building. The yamnaya were specialists at warfare, though pretty much all the major tianyuan descendants seem to have had a thing for expansion and violence, northern eurasians are pretty much the only people who have ever had enormous martial empires. Near Eastern people would usually only conquer others for being nuisances or because they had to. Even the arab expansion of Islam can be blamed on the Arabs playing "monkey see monkey do" with the Roman empire
Furthermore, I consider that Israel must be destroyed
Well, as a half Hungarian it is actually quite peculiar. The Hungarians came to Europe around a 1000 years ago, and came from somewhere north-east. Over the span of Hungary's existence there were many ethnics (for example German ones) that moved here and thus genetically spread.
The people are actually barely distinguishable from other Whites, and the average IQ is roughly the same.
The people are actually barely distinguishable from other Whites, and the average IQ is roughly the same.
I know too little, so I've queried Gemini for an answer. Here:
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The history of Hungary is a fascinating case of linguistic survival versus genetic assimilation. As a half-Hungarian, your observation is scientifically accurate: modern Hungarians are genetically and phenotypically indistinguishable from their Central and Eastern European neighbors.
Here is an elaboration on why that is, the "Oriental" myth, and the logic behind the language.
1 - The Linguistic Mystery: Why Finnugor?
The Hungarian language belongs to the Uralic family (specifically the Ugric branch). Its closest linguistic "relatives" are actually not Finnish or Estonian, but the Khanty and Mansi peoples living in the Ob River valley of Western Siberia.
The Split: Around 4,000–5,000 years ago, the Proto-Uralic people lived near the Ural Mountains. One group moved toward the Baltic (becoming Finns/Estonians), while the Ugric group moved south and east toward the steppes.
The "Elite Dominance" Model: This is why the language survived. When the Magyar tribes (the ancestors of Hungarians) entered the Carpathian Basin in 895 AD, they were a disciplined, militarily superior "elite." Even if they were outnumbered by the local Slavs, Avars, and remnants of Germanic tribes, their social and political structure was so dominant that the local populations eventually adopted the Magyar language to move up in society.
2 - The "Oriental" Look: Myth vs. Reality
The idea that Hungarians are "Oriental" (East Asian) looking is largely a historical hangover from two sources:
Romantic Nationalism: In the 19th century, some Hungarian scholars preferred the idea of being "Turkic" warriors (descendants of Attila the Hun) rather than "fish-smelling" Finno-Ugrian gatherers. This created a cultural narrative of being "of the East."
Early Migrations: The original Magyar tribes that left the Urals did have a significant East Eurasian genetic component (estimated at 10–30% depending on the tribe). Some individuals in the 10th century would have had features we might associate with Central Asia or Siberia today.
Why you don't see it now: The "Magyar" genetic signature was diluted almost immediately. Over 1,100 years, the population mixed with:
Local populations: Slavs, Avars, and Gepids already in the basin.
Later settlers: Cumans (Kipchak Turks), Pechenegs, Germans (Swabians), and Slovaks.
Invasions: The Mongol invasion (1241) and 150 years of Ottoman Turkish rule further churned the gene pool.
Today, modern Hungarians carry very little (usually less than 2%) of the original "Siberian" genetic markers. You are "right in the middle" because Hungary is the geographic and genetic "drain" of Europe—everyone who passed through left something behind.
3 - The Ethnic Setups: A "Melting Pot"
The history of Hungary isn't the story of a single race, but a political identity that absorbed many ethnicities:
- 895 AD (Conquest): Seven Magyar tribes + three Kavar (Khazar/Turkic) tribes.
- 1200s–1300s: Massive settlement of Cumans and Jasz (an Iranian/Alanic people) fleeing the Mongols.
- 1700s: The "Great Settlement" after the Turkish wars brought in huge numbers of Germans (Danube Swabians) and Slovaks to repopulate empty lands.
- Modern: A blend that is genetically closest to Austrians, Czechs, and Slovaks, but culturally and linguistically unique.
4 - The "H" in Hungary
Contrary to popular belief, the name "Hungary" doesn't come from "Hun." It likely comes from the Turkic Onogur ("Ten Arrows"), a tribal confederation the Magyars were part of. The "H" was added later by Western Europeans who confused the Magyars with the Huns because both were terrifying horse-archers from the East.
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The history of Hungary is a fascinating case of linguistic survival versus genetic assimilation. As a half-Hungarian, your observation is scientifically accurate: modern Hungarians are genetically and phenotypically indistinguishable from their Central and Eastern European neighbors.
Here is an elaboration on why that is, the "Oriental" myth, and the logic behind the language.
1 - The Linguistic Mystery: Why Finnugor?
The Hungarian language belongs to the Uralic family (specifically the Ugric branch). Its closest linguistic "relatives" are actually not Finnish or Estonian, but the Khanty and Mansi peoples living in the Ob River valley of Western Siberia.
The Split: Around 4,000–5,000 years ago, the Proto-Uralic people lived near the Ural Mountains. One group moved toward the Baltic (becoming Finns/Estonians), while the Ugric group moved south and east toward the steppes.
The "Elite Dominance" Model: This is why the language survived. When the Magyar tribes (the ancestors of Hungarians) entered the Carpathian Basin in 895 AD, they were a disciplined, militarily superior "elite." Even if they were outnumbered by the local Slavs, Avars, and remnants of Germanic tribes, their social and political structure was so dominant that the local populations eventually adopted the Magyar language to move up in society.
2 - The "Oriental" Look: Myth vs. Reality
The idea that Hungarians are "Oriental" (East Asian) looking is largely a historical hangover from two sources:
Romantic Nationalism: In the 19th century, some Hungarian scholars preferred the idea of being "Turkic" warriors (descendants of Attila the Hun) rather than "fish-smelling" Finno-Ugrian gatherers. This created a cultural narrative of being "of the East."
Early Migrations: The original Magyar tribes that left the Urals did have a significant East Eurasian genetic component (estimated at 10–30% depending on the tribe). Some individuals in the 10th century would have had features we might associate with Central Asia or Siberia today.
Why you don't see it now: The "Magyar" genetic signature was diluted almost immediately. Over 1,100 years, the population mixed with:
Local populations: Slavs, Avars, and Gepids already in the basin.
Later settlers: Cumans (Kipchak Turks), Pechenegs, Germans (Swabians), and Slovaks.
Invasions: The Mongol invasion (1241) and 150 years of Ottoman Turkish rule further churned the gene pool.
Today, modern Hungarians carry very little (usually less than 2%) of the original "Siberian" genetic markers. You are "right in the middle" because Hungary is the geographic and genetic "drain" of Europe—everyone who passed through left something behind.
3 - The Ethnic Setups: A "Melting Pot"
The history of Hungary isn't the story of a single race, but a political identity that absorbed many ethnicities:
- 895 AD (Conquest): Seven Magyar tribes + three Kavar (Khazar/Turkic) tribes.
- 1200s–1300s: Massive settlement of Cumans and Jasz (an Iranian/Alanic people) fleeing the Mongols.
- 1700s: The "Great Settlement" after the Turkish wars brought in huge numbers of Germans (Danube Swabians) and Slovaks to repopulate empty lands.
- Modern: A blend that is genetically closest to Austrians, Czechs, and Slovaks, but culturally and linguistically unique.
4 - The "H" in Hungary
Contrary to popular belief, the name "Hungary" doesn't come from "Hun." It likely comes from the Turkic Onogur ("Ten Arrows"), a tribal confederation the Magyars were part of. The "H" was added later by Western Europeans who confused the Magyars with the Huns because both were terrifying horse-archers from the East.
Well, to be fair, out of the "finno-ugrics", Hungarians are probably the most distant from their roots, though that's more or less stated. Finnics in Russia and in the far northern parts of Europe tend to be more asiatic than the ones located to the south or west of those regions respectively
But, well, the east/west eurasian split wasn't exactly a clean break as is typically suggested. Tianyuan man, of all ancient specimens, was the paternal ancestor of basically every north eurasian group that there is. Haplogroup R is a sister of N, O, and Q, if you are haologroup R and someone standing next to you is haplogroup I, paternally you have more in common with a random dude in china. All of the above are from tianyuan man.
Disclaimer: he lived right on the cusp of when the genetic split would have happened, whether or not he was stereotypically "mongoloid", "caucasoid" or both/neither is pretty difficult to say, although some eastern hunter gatherer reconstructions (the fathers of the yamnaya, who also descend from tianyuan) look almost turkic. Depending on circumstances, some indo european individuals might have looked asiatic as well (though they would have been a minority, with overwhelming european maternal gene flow) but this is assuming that tianyuan man related people were, in fact, asiatic themselves. It may explain the odd random white people (and almost always of northern descent) that are not finnic who look Asian for no reason (like bjork, probably the best example I can give)
The deeper connection might also potentially explain the almost eerily similar continuity between yamnaya-scythians/sakai-turkics-huns-mongols-jurchens-manchus. It would also explain bizarre connections between amerindian and european mythology, and on a more abstract and distant level chinese and european mythology.
My paternal family comes from germanized balts, originally. My Y-DNA haplogroup is N. Technically, paternally, I'm also "uralic", but my family has been germanized since the northern crusades, and probably indo-europeanized before then.
Furthermore, I consider that Israel must be destroyed
But, well, the east/west eurasian split wasn't exactly a clean break as is typically suggested. Tianyuan man, of all ancient specimens, was the paternal ancestor of basically every north eurasian group that there is. Haplogroup R is a sister of N, O, and Q, if you are haologroup R and someone standing next to you is haplogroup I, paternally you have more in common with a random dude in china. All of the above are from tianyuan man.
Disclaimer: he lived right on the cusp of when the genetic split would have happened, whether or not he was stereotypically "mongoloid", "caucasoid" or both/neither is pretty difficult to say, although some eastern hunter gatherer reconstructions (the fathers of the yamnaya, who also descend from tianyuan) look almost turkic. Depending on circumstances, some indo european individuals might have looked asiatic as well (though they would have been a minority, with overwhelming european maternal gene flow) but this is assuming that tianyuan man related people were, in fact, asiatic themselves. It may explain the odd random white people (and almost always of northern descent) that are not finnic who look Asian for no reason (like bjork, probably the best example I can give)
The deeper connection might also potentially explain the almost eerily similar continuity between yamnaya-scythians/sakai-turkics-huns-mongols-jurchens-manchus. It would also explain bizarre connections between amerindian and european mythology, and on a more abstract and distant level chinese and european mythology.
My paternal family comes from germanized balts, originally. My Y-DNA haplogroup is N. Technically, paternally, I'm also "uralic", but my family has been germanized since the northern crusades, and probably indo-europeanized before then.
Furthermore, I consider that Israel must be destroyed
To add. Whites entered the planet when Adam sinned in the Garden of Eden (Cro-Magnon). They never interbreed with blacks
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same as gypsies, pajeets and jews.