As a comic book nerd, I can say with full confidence that the comic fans HATE it. Indie comic communities, by and large, reject it and won't implement it. It's lazy writing that requires zero effort to maintain continuity. It's slop.
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It's fun as a one off plot in a serialized television show (think evil Spock in star trek), but it's definitely abused by lazy writers these days to do stupid shit like cameos of characters that were killed off two movies ago or get out of a corner they painted themselves into.
As for time travel shenanigans, it is also used as a shortcut to throw out established lore, like jar jar Abrams did with his Star Trek prequel movies. I didn't pay attention to previews (I hate how they spoil everything) so went in blind and was extremely let down that it's "muh alternate timeline". So I'm watching expensive fanfiction. Why bother watching the original shows or reading the novels to respect the lore of the fictional universe you inherited when you can just show alternative timelines and use the characters however you want (more grrlbossy attitudes, etc)?
As for time travel shenanigans, it is also used as a shortcut to throw out established lore, like jar jar Abrams did with his Star Trek prequel movies. I didn't pay attention to previews (I hate how they spoil everything) so went in blind and was extremely let down that it's "muh alternate timeline". So I'm watching expensive fanfiction. Why bother watching the original shows or reading the novels to respect the lore of the fictional universe you inherited when you can just show alternative timelines and use the characters however you want (more grrlbossy attitudes, etc)?
I’m happy to say I have absolutely no idea what a “multiverse” is. No, Im not trying to be edgy, and cool, I’ve legitimately never heard of it. I’m even surprised.
Explanation: It is the idea that existence is so large, that there are infinite "universes" where everything has an "echo" that is just slightly different.
Infinite versions of everything, and a common trope in stories with this would be an alternate universe where Natsocs won and the heroes go there to fight natsocs or whatever.
"Every possible scenario has happened in an alternate timeline! And there is a version of you out there that is a fat faggot!"
The truth is that less is sometimes more. Adding "Muh infinite everything" to a story makes the story feel like over bloated slop.
Infinite versions of everything, and a common trope in stories with this would be an alternate universe where Natsocs won and the heroes go there to fight natsocs or whatever.
"Every possible scenario has happened in an alternate timeline! And there is a version of you out there that is a fat faggot!"
The truth is that less is sometimes more. Adding "Muh infinite everything" to a story makes the story feel like over bloated slop.
Yeah, it's usually just lazy slop. About the only additional good example I can think of is Michael Moorcock's Eternal Champion, which incarnates as very different people in vastly different worlds instead of this "only a slight difference" garbage we see in every modern multiverse.
IT IS FUCKING GAY.
back in my day, the most complex an IP was essentially came in the form of a trilogy.
Now everything has to have a sequel, prequel, remake, remaster, reimagining, reboot, and sequels and prequels to all that, as well as character-specific entries, and alternate dimension entries, only for the bullshit to repeat every 10 years.
If you need a goddamn spreadsheet to figure out how to watch a marvel movie, then you, as a developer, have lost the damn plot
back in my day, the most complex an IP was essentially came in the form of a trilogy.
Now everything has to have a sequel, prequel, remake, remaster, reimagining, reboot, and sequels and prequels to all that, as well as character-specific entries, and alternate dimension entries, only for the bullshit to repeat every 10 years.
If you need a goddamn spreadsheet to figure out how to watch a marvel movie, then you, as a developer, have lost the damn plot
Well, I do not watch anything that has that goyslop because it is bad.
On one hand if you have characters and plots that are interesting, it is not necessarily a bad idea to have alternate stories about them, so that you can map out multiple possibilities.
But to force it into a "multiverse" is indeed just a trash solution. Also completely irrational. If there are differences, it must have occurred billions of years ago, not yesterday on Earth. Thus that change in the past causes compounding differences into the future. It can be something like humanity is completely reconfigured, different people exist with a different set of genes, or humanity doesn't exist at all, or humanity existed a mere 1 millions years earlier, or Earth doesn't exist.
It is also true that it is best to keep things simple. To have a good story and not play around needlessly, diluting the relevance of the character. For example the movie Watchmen was good as it is - there is no need to rearrange the plot.
It's a cheap device for movies. But actually I do not mind having a divergence of events in a specific point in time, leading to a whole another plot. But that's not what they're doing. Instead it's BATMAN classic, BATMAN but old, BATMAN but extra lame, etc.
On one hand if you have characters and plots that are interesting, it is not necessarily a bad idea to have alternate stories about them, so that you can map out multiple possibilities.
But to force it into a "multiverse" is indeed just a trash solution. Also completely irrational. If there are differences, it must have occurred billions of years ago, not yesterday on Earth. Thus that change in the past causes compounding differences into the future. It can be something like humanity is completely reconfigured, different people exist with a different set of genes, or humanity doesn't exist at all, or humanity existed a mere 1 millions years earlier, or Earth doesn't exist.
It is also true that it is best to keep things simple. To have a good story and not play around needlessly, diluting the relevance of the character. For example the movie Watchmen was good as it is - there is no need to rearrange the plot.
It's a cheap device for movies. But actually I do not mind having a divergence of events in a specific point in time, leading to a whole another plot. But that's not what they're doing. Instead it's BATMAN classic, BATMAN but old, BATMAN but extra lame, etc.
I agree that it can be done correctly but the way it is usually handled is just lowest common denominator laziness so they can put less effort into writing and sell more toys of a popular character from an alternate universe where everyone has dirty teeth.
I am glad to see that people here also have a distaste for the modern bad story telling.
I am glad to see that people here also have a distaste for the modern bad story telling.
Read Genesis and tell me where it talks about a “universe”
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Homestuck is another example of "muh infinite" slop.
That and "it was all in le head" are getting pretty fucking old.
"It was all just le dying dream!"