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PurestEvil on scored.co
9 days ago1 point(+0/-0/+1Score on mirror)1 child
The are multiple levels of intrusion. As of right now, they have minimal information about me. They don't know where I live, who I am, what my phone number is, what my name is.
Aside from that, your argument was that its purpose is to combat spammers/scammers. First of all, they can create e-mails from any account. As far I remember you could even send e-mails from your PC itself - you just need some kind of storage/server to receive them especially in times where your computer is not running. Second, you can just acquire cheap fake phone numbers. Third, you can literally give fake e-mail addresses.
I've seen what e-mails are. They are just some XML or HTML format, and the entire system is built on trust - trusting that whatever is in the e-mail code is correct. The receiving e-mail server doesn't do any verification check of the e-mail sent either - how could it? Only by asking the sending e-mail server (if existing) if it has a record of an e-mail being sent, and a checksum of its content. But that's not part of how e-mails work - there is no shared protocol either.
Maybe something has changed over the past years, and only *some* e-mail providers adapted it, but the actual standard is the barebone minimum necessary to make it work.
You could replace the entire e-mail system with a modern, secure, foolproof system. But it would be a new system.
And? These systems are merely built on top to prevent normal user IPs from being accepted. But what do you think how e-mails are sent? It's just a program that does a TCP connection and sends byte data back and forth. It's the SAME process, but from an "allowed" IP.
Which means I am right.
> Do you like when scammers can just create thousands and thousands of accounts to spam from?
Let's remember that you advocated to suck big corporate jewish dick to further eliminate OUR privacy. And that you ignored the part where you said that EVERY E-MAIL PROVIDER IN EXISTENCE must do phone verification.
Which is retarded because they already have measures to block spam from untrusted sources. You said it yourself.
> But what do you think how e-mails are sent? It's just a program that does a TCP connection and sends byte data back and forth. It's the SAME process, but from an "allowed" IP.
you are stupid. I've been setting up email servers for 25 years now, it's not "just an allowed IP".
you need to setup exchange or some smtp server. you can technically send email from that, but all your emails are going to get rejected because every other server that's not setup by a dumbfuck like you because they will have spf, dkim and dmarc, RBL, among many other spam/email filtering, rendering your shitty spam server useless.
and if you do start sending emails from your IP, you get put on RBL lists, and now you have a clusterfuck of a time getting that IP off those lists.
> said that EVERY E-MAIL PROVIDER IN EXISTENCE must do phone verification.
it's called ARIN, retard, and it's been around forever. look at that up too.
Aside from that, your argument was that its purpose is to combat spammers/scammers. First of all, they can create e-mails from any account. As far I remember you could even send e-mails from your PC itself - you just need some kind of storage/server to receive them especially in times where your computer is not running. Second, you can just acquire cheap fake phone numbers. Third, you can literally give fake e-mail addresses.
I've seen what e-mails are. They are just some XML or HTML format, and the entire system is built on trust - trusting that whatever is in the e-mail code is correct. The receiving e-mail server doesn't do any verification check of the e-mail sent either - how could it? Only by asking the sending e-mail server (if existing) if it has a record of an e-mail being sent, and a checksum of its content. But that's not part of how e-mails work - there is no shared protocol either.
Maybe something has changed over the past years, and only *some* e-mail providers adapted it, but the actual standard is the barebone minimum necessary to make it work.
You could replace the entire e-mail system with a modern, secure, foolproof system. But it would be a new system.
You are a moron. Go learn about SPF/DMARC/DKIM and then realize why you are dumb
Which means I am right.
> Do you like when scammers can just create thousands and thousands of accounts to spam from?
Let's remember that you advocated to suck big corporate jewish dick to further eliminate OUR privacy. And that you ignored the part where you said that EVERY E-MAIL PROVIDER IN EXISTENCE must do phone verification.
Which is retarded because they already have measures to block spam from untrusted sources. You said it yourself.
you are stupid. I've been setting up email servers for 25 years now, it's not "just an allowed IP".
you need to setup exchange or some smtp server. you can technically send email from that, but all your emails are going to get rejected because every other server that's not setup by a dumbfuck like you because they will have spf, dkim and dmarc, RBL, among many other spam/email filtering, rendering your shitty spam server useless.
and if you do start sending emails from your IP, you get put on RBL lists, and now you have a clusterfuck of a time getting that IP off those lists.
> said that EVERY E-MAIL PROVIDER IN EXISTENCE must do phone verification.
it's called ARIN, retard, and it's been around forever. look at that up too.
now just shut the fuck up