It doesnt. The father the son and the holy spirit are one. Just as you are mind soul and body. You are three in one as well. And we are made in God's image. There is not multiple gods. I have many reasons I reject Mormons beyond this. But thinking god will elevate you to being God of a planet for being a good mormon is peak cultist behavior. Utmost heresy. You are likely a good person. But you are actively following a false prophets message.
John 17 explains what "one" means. A better word nowadays would be "united". Either that or we have to consider Jesus' disciples as part of the Trinity.
> There is not multiple gods.
Again, the Bible clearly teaches that there are many, many gods. Do you want me to point to where the old and new testament say this sort of thing? It's blatantly obvious.
Let me give one example to show you how obvious it is: Remember when Jesus went into the wilderness to fast and pray, and then someone / something came to tempt him? Who was that? Was he a god or an angel or something else?
Another example: Why does Paul name someone other than Jesus / God as the god of this world?
> I have many reasons I reject Mormons beyond this.
So, what you are saying is you have no reason to reject mormonism because you don't even understand anything about the claims mormonism is making. It's fine to be ignorant, but it's not fine to be so full of pride and self-conceit to remain ignorant when confronted with plain facts that contradict what your pastor told you.
> But thinking god will elevate you to being God of a planet for being a good mormon is peak cultist behavior.
I agree. That is peak cultist behavior. And let me be clear -- we have NEVER taught such a doctrine in any form anywhere in our history. It is a fabrication, an insulting one at that, taught as truth by our enemies. Why would they spread lies? I have some ideas on who their "father" is but I won't be so explicit.
Instead, we have taught what the Bible teaches, which is that we can be partakers in the Divine (God) nature, that we can become one with Jesus the same way Jesus is one with God, and we will sit on the throne of God the same way Jesus sits on the throne of God.
In fact, you'll be hard-pressed to find any scripture in LDS theology that even approaches the level of what the Bible teaches on this subject.
Go back to the Church Fathers and you'll find people who were in good standing as a "Christian" teaching almost exactly what we teach today. Lorenzo Snow's famous couplet is repeated by Church Fathers, the Bible, and is still an important aspect of the Orthodox Church. It's called "theosis".
> Utmost heresy.
I am proud to be considered a "heretic" by cultists who believe the Bible is elevated above God and that God can no longer speak to prophets and apostles the same way he did thousands of years ago.
> But you are actively following a false prophets message.
President Oaks is a false prophet? Interesting. How did you come to that conclusion? Did God tell you? What standard are you using to judge whether a man is a prophet or not? What standard does the Bible teach? What standard did Jesus use? Who did he consider a prophet?
This is a deeply important question.
Be very careful who you accept as a leader and a shepherd. If your shepherd is teaching you lies as truth, he is not playing on the right side. He should be teaching you what Jesus taught, all but straight from the Bible, not as interpreted by man's interpretation, but solely by the Spirit of God.
You guys swore an oath to a man-made creed. The exact opposite of what Jesus wanted us to do.
Im sure you're a good person though. Love ya you filthy heretic.
Oh?
So you reject the Bible, because it teaches clearly that there are multiple gods?
VERY INTERESTING...
John 17 explains what "one" means. A better word nowadays would be "united". Either that or we have to consider Jesus' disciples as part of the Trinity.
> There is not multiple gods.
Again, the Bible clearly teaches that there are many, many gods. Do you want me to point to where the old and new testament say this sort of thing? It's blatantly obvious.
Let me give one example to show you how obvious it is: Remember when Jesus went into the wilderness to fast and pray, and then someone / something came to tempt him? Who was that? Was he a god or an angel or something else?
Another example: Why does Paul name someone other than Jesus / God as the god of this world?
> I have many reasons I reject Mormons beyond this.
So, what you are saying is you have no reason to reject mormonism because you don't even understand anything about the claims mormonism is making. It's fine to be ignorant, but it's not fine to be so full of pride and self-conceit to remain ignorant when confronted with plain facts that contradict what your pastor told you.
> But thinking god will elevate you to being God of a planet for being a good mormon is peak cultist behavior.
I agree. That is peak cultist behavior. And let me be clear -- we have NEVER taught such a doctrine in any form anywhere in our history. It is a fabrication, an insulting one at that, taught as truth by our enemies. Why would they spread lies? I have some ideas on who their "father" is but I won't be so explicit.
Instead, we have taught what the Bible teaches, which is that we can be partakers in the Divine (God) nature, that we can become one with Jesus the same way Jesus is one with God, and we will sit on the throne of God the same way Jesus sits on the throne of God.
In fact, you'll be hard-pressed to find any scripture in LDS theology that even approaches the level of what the Bible teaches on this subject.
Go back to the Church Fathers and you'll find people who were in good standing as a "Christian" teaching almost exactly what we teach today. Lorenzo Snow's famous couplet is repeated by Church Fathers, the Bible, and is still an important aspect of the Orthodox Church. It's called "theosis".
> Utmost heresy.
I am proud to be considered a "heretic" by cultists who believe the Bible is elevated above God and that God can no longer speak to prophets and apostles the same way he did thousands of years ago.
> But you are actively following a false prophets message.
President Oaks is a false prophet? Interesting. How did you come to that conclusion? Did God tell you? What standard are you using to judge whether a man is a prophet or not? What standard does the Bible teach? What standard did Jesus use? Who did he consider a prophet?
This is a deeply important question.
Be very careful who you accept as a leader and a shepherd. If your shepherd is teaching you lies as truth, he is not playing on the right side. He should be teaching you what Jesus taught, all but straight from the Bible, not as interpreted by man's interpretation, but solely by the Spirit of God.