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"Cremation" entry in Catholic Encyclopedia: https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04481c.htm

> By the fifth century of the Christian Era, owing in great part to the rapid progress of Christianity, the practice of cremation had entirely ceased.

> The Christians never burned their dead, but followed from earliest days the practice of the Semitic race and the personal example of their Divine Founder. It is recorded that in times of persecution many risked their lives to recover the bodies of martyrs for the holy rites of Christian burial. The pagans, to destroy faith in the resurrection of the body, often cast the corpses of martyred Christians into the flames, fondly believing thus to render impossible the resurrection of the body. What Christian faith has ever held in this regard is clearly put by the third-century writer Minucius Felix, in his dialogue "Octavius", refuting the assertion that cremation made this resurrection an impossibility: "Nor do we fear, as you suppose, any harm from the [mode of] sepulture, but we adhere to the old, and better, custom" ("Nec, ut creditis, ullum damnum sepulturae timemus sed veterem et meliorem consuetudinem humandi frequentamus" — P.L., III, 362).
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fourleaved on scored.co
3 days ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
But hope in Christ means a resurrection of the body. We aren't pure matter and we aren't pure soul, we're both. In the great hereafter, expect to have both still
PurestEvil on scored.co
3 days ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
So you want to resurrect my grandma who was very old and had psychological issues? So that she can live for some another weeks in wheelchair? Come on... this is magic nonsense.
fourleaved on scored.co
3 days ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
Right, because Jesus went to sit at the right hand of God in a decrepit, bloody, bruised old body with nails in His hands and a hole in His side?

No, He returned in a glorified body. The faithful will do just the same.
PurestEvil on scored.co
3 days ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 2 children
My grandfather was a violent, abusive man who regularly beat my mother when she was a child the face over menial things like getting a bad grade (which was done by her teacher as a "warning"). Or tied my aunt to a tree for a day as punishment.

Do I really want to have him resurrected in his prime? My father was an alcoholic and a thief who abandoned a family, whom we never met. My uncle was a closet homosexual with an abrasive personality - I knew because he and my aunt, his wife, tried to make out with my father. I am sure all of them were Christians.

So what the fuck? How is this supposed to work? How is this supposed to do any good? Is it just for a moment like a short ending scene in a movie, or would everyone has to sustain themselves, get food, water, sleep, shelter, etc? Would it lead to a massive horde of homelessness, or overfilled houses? Will the resurrected reclaim the properties they left to their children? They are in the prime, they'd sure have the strength. Will it lead to a war?

My grandfather was known to have had legendary strength, able to transport logs on his shoulders. How well will I fare against him?

And what about the living? Did they miss the opportunity to die and resurrect in their prime? So they are left at old age?

Or is this just a "don't think about it" thing? I think we got enough about that from the past century. Covid being one of those.

It will literally never happen. Nobody has to ever consider it occurring. It's ridiculously absurd, and the more you think about it, the worse it gets. I assume if you DON'T think about it, it's just as feasible as 3rd world mass importation.
fourleaved on scored.co
2 days ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
There will be a new heaven and a new earth, not corrupted by sin. Whether you like it or not, you have a body and you weren't given it by accident or incident. You are not a spirit, or a soul, or a consciousness. You exist in a physical body that was given to you for a reason and will not be abandoned at the end of time.
steele2 on scored.co
3 days ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 2 children
>Or is this just a "don't think about it" thing?

Yes and no.

I entertain theories about Heaven occasionally while also recognizing it's unknowable.

We don't know if Heaven will eventually get boring or if our favorite saucepan will be waiting for us at the Pearly Gates.

We inevitably arrive at the conclusion that these questions are unknowable without proof, at which point we are no longer debating theology.

This is why I also don't twist myself in knots over End of Days signs like other Christians do: it's interesting but if you have faith then you trust in God to take care of such things.

PurestEvil on scored.co
3 days ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
Heaven sounds more reasonable, because in that case people can unite as souls and are not subject to bodily processes like eating, sleeping, going to the toilet, breathing. Even the very concept of aging and time can be dismissed at this point. In this case we are in a realm that is different than the physical world as we know it.

And in that case there would be no relevancy if a corpse is buried (and long rotten down to a skeleton) or burned. My mother said she wants to be burned to ash when she dies and poured into the wind on a mountaintop. For me it's irrelevant, whatever is best for my family - but I'd be fine with the idea of becoming fertilizer for plants that grow over my corpse.

Just to note, fourleaved believes that everybody is literally resurrected into their prime form. That's simply not plausible.
Captain_Raamsley on scored.co
2 days ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
Heaven will never be boring. In heaven, there is no negative emotion. Or rather, there is never any reason to have it, and never and event, stimulus etc. that will cause it. In heaven, I'm gonna build things.

Personally the only thing that I consider to be an L as far as heaven goes is the very likely lack of all sex with your spouse for all eternity - even though I know that it is a drop in a bucket compared to what, if anything, will replace it.
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