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"Cremation" entry in Catholic Encyclopedia: https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04481c.htm

> By the fifth century of the Christian Era, owing in great part to the rapid progress of Christianity, the practice of cremation had entirely ceased.

> The Christians never burned their dead, but followed from earliest days the practice of the Semitic race and the personal example of their Divine Founder. It is recorded that in times of persecution many risked their lives to recover the bodies of martyrs for the holy rites of Christian burial. The pagans, to destroy faith in the resurrection of the body, often cast the corpses of martyred Christians into the flames, fondly believing thus to render impossible the resurrection of the body. What Christian faith has ever held in this regard is clearly put by the third-century writer Minucius Felix, in his dialogue "Octavius", refuting the assertion that cremation made this resurrection an impossibility: "Nor do we fear, as you suppose, any harm from the [mode of] sepulture, but we adhere to the old, and better, custom" ("Nec, ut creditis, ullum damnum sepulturae timemus sed veterem et meliorem consuetudinem humandi frequentamus" — P.L., III, 362).
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Captain_Raamsley on scored.co
3 days ago 5 points (+0 / -0 / +5Score on mirror ) 1 child
>from dust you came, and to dust you will return

Did every single Christian and pagan just forget that all your flesh and bones rot to dust when you die?
fourleaved on scored.co
3 days ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
But hope in Christ means a resurrection of the body. We aren't pure matter and we aren't pure soul, we're both. In the great hereafter, expect to have both still
PurestEvil on scored.co
3 days ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
So you want to resurrect my grandma who was very old and had psychological issues? So that she can live for some another weeks in wheelchair? Come on... this is magic nonsense.
fourleaved on scored.co
3 days ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
Right, because Jesus went to sit at the right hand of God in a decrepit, bloody, bruised old body with nails in His hands and a hole in His side?

No, He returned in a glorified body. The faithful will do just the same.
PurestEvil on scored.co
3 days ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 2 children
My grandfather was a violent, abusive man who regularly beat my mother when she was a child the face over menial things like getting a bad grade (which was done by her teacher as a "warning"). Or tied my aunt to a tree for a day as punishment.

Do I really want to have him resurrected in his prime? My father was an alcoholic and a thief who abandoned a family, whom we never met. My uncle was a closet homosexual with an abrasive personality - I knew because he and my aunt, his wife, tried to make out with my father. I am sure all of them were Christians.

So what the fuck? How is this supposed to work? How is this supposed to do any good? Is it just for a moment like a short ending scene in a movie, or would everyone has to sustain themselves, get food, water, sleep, shelter, etc? Would it lead to a massive horde of homelessness, or overfilled houses? Will the resurrected reclaim the properties they left to their children? They are in the prime, they'd sure have the strength. Will it lead to a war?

My grandfather was known to have had legendary strength, able to transport logs on his shoulders. How well will I fare against him?

And what about the living? Did they miss the opportunity to die and resurrect in their prime? So they are left at old age?

Or is this just a "don't think about it" thing? I think we got enough about that from the past century. Covid being one of those.

It will literally never happen. Nobody has to ever consider it occurring. It's ridiculously absurd, and the more you think about it, the worse it gets. I assume if you DON'T think about it, it's just as feasible as 3rd world mass importation.
fourleaved on scored.co
3 days ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
There will be a new heaven and a new earth, not corrupted by sin. Whether you like it or not, you have a body and you weren't given it by accident or incident. You are not a spirit, or a soul, or a consciousness. You exist in a physical body that was given to you for a reason and will not be abandoned at the end of time.
steele2 on scored.co
3 days ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 2 children
>Or is this just a "don't think about it" thing?

Yes and no.

I entertain theories about Heaven occasionally while also recognizing it's unknowable.

We don't know if Heaven will eventually get boring or if our favorite saucepan will be waiting for us at the Pearly Gates.

We inevitably arrive at the conclusion that these questions are unknowable without proof, at which point we are no longer debating theology.

This is why I also don't twist myself in knots over End of Days signs like other Christians do: it's interesting but if you have faith then you trust in God to take care of such things.

fourleaved on scored.co
3 days ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 3 children
I don't know if it's impossible to be bodily resurrected from cremation, but I'm not taking any chances. The obsession with needing to be economical and take up as little space as possible in desth is just sad. We're so afraid of dying that we tuck it away to be forgotten.

Long gone are the days when the church cemetery was the centre of town. Where reflections on death and meditations on the afterlife were commonplace.
BlippiIsAPedo on scored.co
3 days ago 3 points (+0 / -0 / +3Score on mirror )
Its possible. Its God. If a loving man of God is blown up, does that mean God can not resurrect him?
BlackPillBot on scored.co
3 days ago 3 points (+0 / -0 / +3Score on mirror ) 1 child
That’s not the main issue for most people, it’s the difference in price, and “laws, and regulations”. Most just can’t afford it. This is something that they didn’t have to deal with, and worry about back then not that long ago, you could just bury your dead in a grave on your land. That’s illegal almost, if not, everywhere now. The funeral, and burial business is beyond kiked. There was a good documentary on it about 10 years ago. I also knew someone who owned a funeral home here in Louisiana. It was a generational thing, and they made stupid money, but also had to pay for all kinds licensing and shit that hit their profits harder than it needed to. It’s all bullshit. The only way you’re getting out of it without spending at least five grand today is if you’re willing to go to some type of “potters field”.

Once again, this is an example of our mOOdern degenerate kiked world not meshing with natural law, and order.
newdaynewname9 on scored.co
3 days ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
The new innovation in corpse disposal is "chemical cremation" where the body is liquified and flushed down the drain like a dead goldfish.
bluewhiteandred on scored.co
3 days ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
> impossible to be bodily resurrected from cremation

oh yeah, that should be no obstacle. It just wasn't an encouraged practice
newdaynewname9 on scored.co
3 days ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
Unfortunately even a dignified death is something we are priced out of.
bluewhiteandred on scored.co
3 days ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
ways to keep costs down to be able to have a "dignified death" are worth discussing
newdaynewname9 on scored.co
3 days ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
Now days "dignified death" just means being forced into suicide when you're too old to keep paying for your survival
PurestEvil on scored.co
3 days ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
Do you want to be a burden to others and your family when you are too old to even shit on your own? Is that what you foresaw as the future for your children? To handle you for years, while you are a dead weight vegetable?

If I ever become like that, I'd gladly chose death. It would be a relief for them. And there would be nothing worth living for in that state for me either.

This insanity of "care for me forever" is madness. Especially Christians should be glad to enter the afterlife, yet they cling to their worn out, hollow lives even when they are unable to do anything anymore, and are ONLY a burden to others.
newdaynewname9 on scored.co
3 days ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
Why would I want to work my whole life just to be left to die when I'm incapable of labor?
PurestEvil on scored.co
3 days ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
Not "incapable of labor." That's not what I am talking about. And you know that, yet you try to play games.

You aren't a burden to your family only because you can't work. You are a burden when you are demented, have Alzheimer's, can't shit alone, have to wear diapers, can't move alone. That's when someone *has* to assist you on a daily basis. And sometimes it's a family member.

This is narcissism and cruelty. This is what many people seem to endorse.
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