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What proof are you looking for? How he's [incapable](https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1966370800002289664/vid/avc1/1920x1080/muPzs8LdHiS0iB6Z.mp4) of holding a [consistent](https://web.archive.org/web/20251101224205if_/https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1895195354280120320/pu/vid/avc1/854x480/tB7uMrbVL5w1hmVI.mp4) [stance](https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1905843422075744257/pu/vid/avc1/1280x720/HA5Gbk5HBxrTkY66.mp4) on anything? The times he went out of his way to [support zionists](https://web.archive.org/web/20250824211344if_/https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1906165910865350656/vid/avc1/1280x720/iUAHGowLWgxYl89_.mp4), [defend jews](https://web.archive.org/web/20251101221038if_/https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1979542924191780865/vid/avc1/444x242/KHT-6Z5veBVDWJNT.mp4) and [support America funding Israel](https://web.archive.org/web/20251101220405if_/https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1809988704934703104/vid/avc1/828x628/-jB7_Vcg63mZCDDc.mp4)? The [many](https://archive.ph/zdwxQ) [countless](https://youtu.be/zCCExGrExkk) [times](https://web.archive.org/web/20250822062843if_/https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1955729513851052040/vid/avc1/1920x1078/2cEmxZzDcPjAPBUj.mp4) he's outed himself as homosexual? The times he's [defended the idea of Chinese funding to attack America](https://web.archive.org/web/20251101225243if_/https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1957905216570834944/vid/avc1/1280x720/9w9mZXIzNiCN4wRc.mp4)? The times he's [defended muslims](https://web.archive.org/web/20250824210903if_/https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1836872866077253632/vid/avc1/1920x1080/FYwdg_-XanlJf6n_.mp4), [promoted anti-racism](https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1903530237423423489/pu/vid/avc1/1280x720/QhFHQ6JMJ4_pR27A.mp4), [defended maintaining a multiethnic society](https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1956123619395829760/vid/avc1/1920x1080/otHeZkiDwqStFAiX.mp4)?
He's been changing a lot over the years because he got into the game at a very young age. I think a lot of us have changed opinions substantially since we were barely even adults. I know I have. I'll address the videos and play devils advocate for a moment:
First point: every right winger on the planet completely 180'd on charlie kirk after the shooting and even this board is no different. I think that the kirk-worship trend is fucking retarded, but it's hardly something unique to him in any way. Whenever someone dies unexpectedly, this happens. Eventually nobody will even know anything about what charlie kirk believed because of his deification. And it really does happen every time. Horst wessel might have been a massive cunt who would have successfully assassinated hitler if he'd never gotten shot and killed. But we won't know, he was turned into a myth post-death.
Second point: what does this have to do with anything?
Third point: this was filmed back in 2023 when fuentes was still somewhat on board with trump. He does *not* like Laura loomer anymore.
Fourth point: he's not defending jews, he's stating a reality. After which he goes on to criticize jews again. The jews wouldn't be as powerful as they are today if all they brought was abject misery and horrible times. They actually brought about some of the best times as a prelude to the current globohomo shitshow we currently live in (yes, jews have been in charge for a *while*). Part of their game was bringing about prosperity to the countries that they entered before killing the host.
5th point: pretty innocuous. He was a teenager when this tweet was published and this was during the height of the "hahaha traps aren't gay" meme
6th point: this video is also ancient, old enough that this was back when he was a TPUSA heckler and barely had a cognizant theory.
7th point: also not an uncommon viewpoint among the right. I disagree with him on this, but he's absolutely not alone and it's more than common to see the same sentiment echoed by others. Hitler and mussolini also had the same idea (though neither ever lived to see Islam in europe west of bosnia), but that's probably where this thought stems from overall.
8th point: this doesn't really come across as being anti racist as much as it comes across as "don't constantly seethe about other races existing". I don't hate niggers for being niggers, because they did not choose this, I just want them to go away because they're incompatible.
9th point: I actually completely disagree with him here because it's impossible for them to be fully civilized. What he's saying seems like a reasonable proposition, it wouldn't be out of place in the political theory of George Lincoln Rockwell, but it's wrong because it just can't happen.
All in all, I see the evolution in thought of someone who entered politics as a teenager and has been put under scrutiny for his entire adult life. Yes, it's going to he inconsistent. Why? Because young people are inconsistent in general. And unfortunately for him, we have access to literally everything hes ever said since he was in high school. It's a world of constantly being slapped in the face with brand new information. Whenever I get some hubris and think I know everything, something absolutely reality-crushing that forces me to reexamine everything that I know comes about, and this happens damn near once a month I'd say. It happened way more often when I was a 17-18 year old studying political theory. Which again is where he was at when he started putting his face online.
Furthermore, I consider that Israel must be destroyed
I appreciate the candid defense. There were 13 links in total, some of which weren't clearly distinguished from one another for the sake of brevity. The most important thing to know about Nick Fuentes is that he only cares about himself and this is reflected in all of his actions.
Regarding the "second point", there were two clips regarding Fuentes and his stance on the Tate brothers. The first where he argues they should be imprisoned, regardless of their "redpilling". Today, Fuentes praises Andrew Tate for being "based" and "redpilled on women". Once it became beneficial for him to partner with the Tate's, he [began relentlessly shutting down all criticism of them](https://web.archive.org/web/20251102040210if_/https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GyqdzWDWwAEgh6O.jpg).
Regarding Nick's stance on Trump, this is probably one of the best cases of his inconsistency. I won't deny that political stances develop over time, but for Fuentes, [Trump was always someone to leech political capital from](https://web.archive.org/web/20251102090441if_/https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1830041275950653440/pu/vid/avc1/1280x720/QB5lM5xMf94NIx7r.mp4). Even as he "declared war" on Trump in the 2024, he claimed wasn't because of his zionist history or jewish family, but out of concerns of his personnel's loyalty.
"[Trump is no longer an agent in the sense that he is not the engine of his own movement. […] There definitely were [external influences within Trump 2016], but they didn't appear to be in the driver's seat like they are now. Trump is basically just a non-factor at this point.](https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1829293067620212736/pu/vid/avc1/720x720/3fUfRrSQvcYilThW.mp4)"
"[If you are not absolutely loyal to Donald Trump, if you are not supportive of his claims of election denial and the coup in 2020, you have no business of being at the senior level of the Trump campaign, the Trump presidential transition and– God forbid– a second Trump administration.](https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1823556680476712962/vid/avc1/1198x676/2HebeXQGfh8Y4EEz.mp4)" (Timestamp 9:35)
Even prior to the 2024 election, Fuentes would make sporadic but dismissive comments about Trump's jewish connections. There was no sudden epiphany. He tacitly revealed that his opposition to Trump would boost his viewership. I would provide the clip (from some point between Nov '24 – Jan '25), but, unfortunately, you'll just have to take me at my word.
Regarding his homosexuality, there were two clips in addition to the liked tweet. The [third clip](https://web.archive.org/web/20250822062843if_/https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1955729513851052040/vid/avc1/1920x1078/2cEmxZzDcPjAPBUj.mp4) is from this August, where Fuentes reminiscences over his "catboy era" that he was shamed out of. Are straight men known to ironically go through a "catboy era" and [host a catboy discord channel](https://youtu.be/zCCExGrExkk&t=71s)? It doesn't help his case that [he's repulsed by the thought of being in a "traditional marriage"](https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1894977961339527168/pu/vid/avc1/1920x1080/Bq7oZkv9t9LyiJR2.mp4).
I assume the "6th point" is about the one he admits to being open to accepting foreign backing against America. As of March 2024, Nick Fuentes [reiterated that he would side with China against America](https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1912289145789075457/vid/avc1/1272x720/z_7BexIJWxYc7r6G.mp4).
Since you bring up George Lincoln Rockwell, it's fitting to mention that [Nick Fuentes disavowed him](https://www.bitchute.com/video/9I2wSeSoPbbg). He most recently said within the last year (no clip, unfortunately) that Rockwell was burning in hell.
None of this even touches his suspicious treatment and company following January 6th, or the pedophile he knowingly partnered with. As recently as the Tucker Carlson interview, Nick Fuentes admitted to keeping jewish company and [idolizing Stalin](https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1982976131708973056/vid/avc1/884x494/zkNJaO1hzFMhisWt.mp4). Overall, Nick Fuentes isn't someone anyone on the "right" should be following.
.. oh, and FUCK YOU, GTFO! 👉
First point: every right winger on the planet completely 180'd on charlie kirk after the shooting and even this board is no different. I think that the kirk-worship trend is fucking retarded, but it's hardly something unique to him in any way. Whenever someone dies unexpectedly, this happens. Eventually nobody will even know anything about what charlie kirk believed because of his deification. And it really does happen every time. Horst wessel might have been a massive cunt who would have successfully assassinated hitler if he'd never gotten shot and killed. But we won't know, he was turned into a myth post-death.
Second point: what does this have to do with anything?
Third point: this was filmed back in 2023 when fuentes was still somewhat on board with trump. He does *not* like Laura loomer anymore.
Fourth point: he's not defending jews, he's stating a reality. After which he goes on to criticize jews again. The jews wouldn't be as powerful as they are today if all they brought was abject misery and horrible times. They actually brought about some of the best times as a prelude to the current globohomo shitshow we currently live in (yes, jews have been in charge for a *while*). Part of their game was bringing about prosperity to the countries that they entered before killing the host.
5th point: pretty innocuous. He was a teenager when this tweet was published and this was during the height of the "hahaha traps aren't gay" meme
6th point: this video is also ancient, old enough that this was back when he was a TPUSA heckler and barely had a cognizant theory.
7th point: also not an uncommon viewpoint among the right. I disagree with him on this, but he's absolutely not alone and it's more than common to see the same sentiment echoed by others. Hitler and mussolini also had the same idea (though neither ever lived to see Islam in europe west of bosnia), but that's probably where this thought stems from overall.
8th point: this doesn't really come across as being anti racist as much as it comes across as "don't constantly seethe about other races existing". I don't hate niggers for being niggers, because they did not choose this, I just want them to go away because they're incompatible.
9th point: I actually completely disagree with him here because it's impossible for them to be fully civilized. What he's saying seems like a reasonable proposition, it wouldn't be out of place in the political theory of George Lincoln Rockwell, but it's wrong because it just can't happen.
All in all, I see the evolution in thought of someone who entered politics as a teenager and has been put under scrutiny for his entire adult life. Yes, it's going to he inconsistent. Why? Because young people are inconsistent in general. And unfortunately for him, we have access to literally everything hes ever said since he was in high school. It's a world of constantly being slapped in the face with brand new information. Whenever I get some hubris and think I know everything, something absolutely reality-crushing that forces me to reexamine everything that I know comes about, and this happens damn near once a month I'd say. It happened way more often when I was a 17-18 year old studying political theory. Which again is where he was at when he started putting his face online.
Furthermore, I consider that Israel must be destroyed
Regarding the "second point", there were two clips regarding Fuentes and his stance on the Tate brothers. The first where he argues they should be imprisoned, regardless of their "redpilling". Today, Fuentes praises Andrew Tate for being "based" and "redpilled on women". Once it became beneficial for him to partner with the Tate's, he [began relentlessly shutting down all criticism of them](https://web.archive.org/web/20251102040210if_/https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GyqdzWDWwAEgh6O.jpg).
Regarding Nick's stance on Trump, this is probably one of the best cases of his inconsistency. I won't deny that political stances develop over time, but for Fuentes, [Trump was always someone to leech political capital from](https://web.archive.org/web/20251102090441if_/https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1830041275950653440/pu/vid/avc1/1280x720/QB5lM5xMf94NIx7r.mp4). Even as he "declared war" on Trump in the 2024, he claimed wasn't because of his zionist history or jewish family, but out of concerns of his personnel's loyalty.
"[Trump is no longer an agent in the sense that he is not the engine of his own movement. […] There definitely were [external influences within Trump 2016], but they didn't appear to be in the driver's seat like they are now. Trump is basically just a non-factor at this point.](https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1829293067620212736/pu/vid/avc1/720x720/3fUfRrSQvcYilThW.mp4)"
"[If you are not absolutely loyal to Donald Trump, if you are not supportive of his claims of election denial and the coup in 2020, you have no business of being at the senior level of the Trump campaign, the Trump presidential transition and– God forbid– a second Trump administration.](https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1823556680476712962/vid/avc1/1198x676/2HebeXQGfh8Y4EEz.mp4)" (Timestamp 9:35)
Even prior to the 2024 election, Fuentes would make sporadic but dismissive comments about Trump's jewish connections. There was no sudden epiphany. He tacitly revealed that his opposition to Trump would boost his viewership. I would provide the clip (from some point between Nov '24 – Jan '25), but, unfortunately, you'll just have to take me at my word.
Regarding his homosexuality, there were two clips in addition to the liked tweet. The [third clip](https://web.archive.org/web/20250822062843if_/https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1955729513851052040/vid/avc1/1920x1078/2cEmxZzDcPjAPBUj.mp4) is from this August, where Fuentes reminiscences over his "catboy era" that he was shamed out of. Are straight men known to ironically go through a "catboy era" and [host a catboy discord channel](https://youtu.be/zCCExGrExkk&t=71s)? It doesn't help his case that [he's repulsed by the thought of being in a "traditional marriage"](https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1894977961339527168/pu/vid/avc1/1920x1080/Bq7oZkv9t9LyiJR2.mp4).
I assume the "6th point" is about the one he admits to being open to accepting foreign backing against America. As of March 2024, Nick Fuentes [reiterated that he would side with China against America](https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1912289145789075457/vid/avc1/1272x720/z_7BexIJWxYc7r6G.mp4).
Since you bring up George Lincoln Rockwell, it's fitting to mention that [Nick Fuentes disavowed him](https://www.bitchute.com/video/9I2wSeSoPbbg). He most recently said within the last year (no clip, unfortunately) that Rockwell was burning in hell.
None of this even touches his suspicious treatment and company following January 6th, or the pedophile he knowingly partnered with. As recently as the Tucker Carlson interview, Nick Fuentes admitted to keeping jewish company and [idolizing Stalin](https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1982976131708973056/vid/avc1/884x494/zkNJaO1hzFMhisWt.mp4). Overall, Nick Fuentes isn't someone anyone on the "right" should be following.