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1 month ago12 points(+0/-0/+12Score on mirror)1 child
Long post incoming but... This is still surface level economics. As the real biggest reason is the disruption of the entire social contract/community/village. People are taught to hate themselves and their history and heritage, and you combine that with anti natalist mentality, and economic prosperity that allowed people to stop working through hard times with their families and friends and instead live off a salary from a corpo or government benefits. Why work with your family when you are rich and can hire someone you can just order to do stuff you want and then not have to deal with them as a person?
Case study: I was invited with my family to a neighbor's, a central american Latino family, probably illegal, birthday party for their 10 year old. We were the only whites present lol, but they had probably 100+ people attending for a regular bday party. Old people, kids, coworkers, family, friends, grandparents, uncles, aunts, cousins, groups of single men, groups of young single women etc all showed up together for the little girl's party. 95% of these people are working class with little money, but they band together and work together.
Whites have used money as a crutch to escape from familial and social duties and have successfully "liberated" themselves from their duties to family and friends. And now that money is getting tighter, we have no village to rely on, no extended families and friends to live with and work with, nobody extending to each other child care, elder care, house work, job offers, or gig job help, nothing. Our elders don't even understand that we would need these things, because in their day they just made more money and bought help, you losers.
We liberated ourselves from the social contract with money, based on the promise of infinitely more money, and now that the blindfold falls we see how poor we are, and we don't even have those vital social structures and villages intact to rely on, we just have money. And that's why people are obsessed with the economic poverty, because some people are so poor the only thing they have is money.
1 month ago4 points(+0/-0/+4Score on mirror)2 children
Yep, OP theory falls apart when you look at immigrants making far less but having far more children.
It's more about perception. Whites perceive their countries failing and so they act with caution with regards to having kids.
Browns, while making less, see it as unprecedented prosperity so the have lots of kids, assuming something will care for them as well.
Also, do not discount the idea that "humans are killing the planet". Probably half of Western Whites subscribe to this idea and they are *not* having kids. They're also a super-majority of the professional class, which means the people who are able to organize large systems aren't reproducing.
1 month ago5 points(+0/-0/+5Score on mirror)1 child
It's not even that, women just refuse to settle because they aren't forced to anymore, they need to be stripped of freedom so they serve their god given role
1 month ago2 points(+0/-0/+2Score on mirror)1 child
Men as well. Imagine if winter was coming and your only hope was to jump on a comely grenade who cooks and cleans and raises kids but is mid and chubby. But she also knows that without your mid-at-best self with anime as your hobby, she will freeze to death or starve unless she compromises.
The basic survival reality forces people to work together and compromise, because there is no other option.
Now we have the shadow of choice that tells us we have more options and to wait for a better one. Nah, that mid fatty is it, at least she cooks well.
No, you're just delusional. Most men don't have a choice at all and are already getting rejected by the fat chicks so why even bother going after them if all we receive is humiliation?
1 month ago2 points(+0/-0/+2Score on mirror)2 children
No he's right. Social media has men and momen lusting over the most attractive humans imaginable all the time. And then these people look at the people around them irl, including in the mirror, and everyone looks *ugly*.
But to your point, a chubby 5/10 wife whoe's a faithful homemaker would be considered a catch by most men these days. The reason being the "faithful homemakers" are extremely rare now.
Immigrants are also propped up by our (((governments)) and given all kinds of free gibs just for not being White, which means that while they make less on paper, they have a lot less to worry about financially.
Case study: I was invited with my family to a neighbor's, a central american Latino family, probably illegal, birthday party for their 10 year old. We were the only whites present lol, but they had probably 100+ people attending for a regular bday party. Old people, kids, coworkers, family, friends, grandparents, uncles, aunts, cousins, groups of single men, groups of young single women etc all showed up together for the little girl's party. 95% of these people are working class with little money, but they band together and work together.
Whites have used money as a crutch to escape from familial and social duties and have successfully "liberated" themselves from their duties to family and friends. And now that money is getting tighter, we have no village to rely on, no extended families and friends to live with and work with, nobody extending to each other child care, elder care, house work, job offers, or gig job help, nothing. Our elders don't even understand that we would need these things, because in their day they just made more money and bought help, you losers.
We liberated ourselves from the social contract with money, based on the promise of infinitely more money, and now that the blindfold falls we see how poor we are, and we don't even have those vital social structures and villages intact to rely on, we just have money. And that's why people are obsessed with the economic poverty, because some people are so poor the only thing they have is money.
It's more about perception. Whites perceive their countries failing and so they act with caution with regards to having kids.
Browns, while making less, see it as unprecedented prosperity so the have lots of kids, assuming something will care for them as well.
Also, do not discount the idea that "humans are killing the planet". Probably half of Western Whites subscribe to this idea and they are *not* having kids. They're also a super-majority of the professional class, which means the people who are able to organize large systems aren't reproducing.
The basic survival reality forces people to work together and compromise, because there is no other option.
Now we have the shadow of choice that tells us we have more options and to wait for a better one. Nah, that mid fatty is it, at least she cooks well.
But to your point, a chubby 5/10 wife whoe's a faithful homemaker would be considered a catch by most men these days. The reason being the "faithful homemakers" are extremely rare now.