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Catholics think the Pope is superhuman
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"Theologically, Catholics believe the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and the Son, while the Orthodox believe the Holy Spirit proceeds only from the Father."
alright there is also this i'd like to know more about, what does conpro think?
"Theologically, Catholics believe the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and the Son, while the Orthodox believe the Holy Spirit proceeds only from the Father."
alright there is also this i'd like to know more about, what does conpro think?
The Great Schism happened over only one line of actual doctrine, yeah. It’s a goddamned (literally) tragedy. But papists worship a human woman and the orthodox believe God exists more in certain places than others.
All of them worship jews, by the way. Stop calling yourself by institutional names. Just be a Christian. Read the New Testament. Live by its words.
All of them worship jews, by the way. Stop calling yourself by institutional names. Just be a Christian. Read the New Testament. Live by its words.
If you want to understand the trinity better you're gonna have to read your Bible. Christians have been arguing over it since Christ died. You should be reading your Bible every day to begin with, for your own sake
You won't find the trinity in the Bible. Specifically, the concept of "homoousis" is nowhere to be found. Multiple trinitarian scholars have been forced to admit that the text of the Bible does not suggest such a thing. It is entirely a manufactured doctrine that didn't even show up until centuries after Christ.
I also recommend reading the Bible daily. Pray to God that he sends the Holy Spirit to open your understanding as you do.
I also recommend reading the Bible daily. Pray to God that he sends the Holy Spirit to open your understanding as you do.
I've read the Bible extensively. The trinity is present all the way into the OT. I will agree with you that much of our knowledge of Christ has been corrupted, since literally right after Christ the dirty crypto jew Onkelos rewrote the OT and all Christians thereafter used his version.
> the trinity is present
I admit that "Father", "Son" and "Holy Ghost" are present in the OT and the NT.
The concept I disagree with in the doctrine of the Trinity is that they are "one substance" or "homoousis." That concept is NOT found in the Bible. In fact, it's quite clear that Father and Son are separate beings. Jesus says things like "My God and Your God". Paul refers to the Father as "God" and Jesus as "Lord" also.
In fact, in the OT, there is a clear reference not just to multiple gods in a divine council, but a tacit assumption that the other gods (such as Baal etc) are actual, real entities. In fact, Jesus' encounter in the wilderness while fasting is likely Baal himself.
> jews rewrote the OT
Having looked into this, it's clear that the rewriting wasn't just occurring in NT times. There is CLEAR signs that even the pentateuch was tampered with. It is apparent that there are 3 sources for the text we have, and the current version was likely not inspired by prophets but by scribes and priests. The Josiah reforms are seen as a sort of inflection point where the jews tried to rewrite their religion as early as 600 BC. Remember, virtually ALL of the prophets in the OT were killed or they tried to kill them, and Jesus mentions that there were many more that were killed by the jews.
Then we find things like Jesus citing an Egyptian story about Osiris and replacing Osiris with Abraham -- the parable of Lazarus and the rich man. Why is Jesus citing Egyptian religion? Does that mean that somehow the Egyptians preserved some of the truths that the jews corrupted?
The very idea that we should worship the Bible as we currently have it is completely contradictory to the text of the Bible, and a critical analysis of the text shows that we really can't trust the text to be divine or authentic because it's clearly been tampered with. If it weren't for Jesus' promise that the Holy Ghost would give us knowledge and truth, we would be utterly hopeless to find truth at all.
Anyway, I could bore people to tears with example upon example of how modern Christian thought is actually not Christian in origin at all, but a perversion either coming through the jews or from the greeks or other pagans.
I admit that "Father", "Son" and "Holy Ghost" are present in the OT and the NT.
The concept I disagree with in the doctrine of the Trinity is that they are "one substance" or "homoousis." That concept is NOT found in the Bible. In fact, it's quite clear that Father and Son are separate beings. Jesus says things like "My God and Your God". Paul refers to the Father as "God" and Jesus as "Lord" also.
In fact, in the OT, there is a clear reference not just to multiple gods in a divine council, but a tacit assumption that the other gods (such as Baal etc) are actual, real entities. In fact, Jesus' encounter in the wilderness while fasting is likely Baal himself.
> jews rewrote the OT
Having looked into this, it's clear that the rewriting wasn't just occurring in NT times. There is CLEAR signs that even the pentateuch was tampered with. It is apparent that there are 3 sources for the text we have, and the current version was likely not inspired by prophets but by scribes and priests. The Josiah reforms are seen as a sort of inflection point where the jews tried to rewrite their religion as early as 600 BC. Remember, virtually ALL of the prophets in the OT were killed or they tried to kill them, and Jesus mentions that there were many more that were killed by the jews.
Then we find things like Jesus citing an Egyptian story about Osiris and replacing Osiris with Abraham -- the parable of Lazarus and the rich man. Why is Jesus citing Egyptian religion? Does that mean that somehow the Egyptians preserved some of the truths that the jews corrupted?
The very idea that we should worship the Bible as we currently have it is completely contradictory to the text of the Bible, and a critical analysis of the text shows that we really can't trust the text to be divine or authentic because it's clearly been tampered with. If it weren't for Jesus' promise that the Holy Ghost would give us knowledge and truth, we would be utterly hopeless to find truth at all.
Anyway, I could bore people to tears with example upon example of how modern Christian thought is actually not Christian in origin at all, but a perversion either coming through the jews or from the greeks or other pagans.
Look into the Great Schism if you want to understand what actually happened during the split. Read all sides, since they'll both be trying to justify why the other is wrong.
I know Catholic Mariology can by a tough pill to swallow, but for me it's what kicked me completely into the Roman church in the end.
I know Catholic Mariology can by a tough pill to swallow, but for me it's what kicked me completely into the Roman church in the end.
I will gladly help you with this question.
First I have to say that you should visit your local Orthodox Church Father and not some internet retard/bot/myself.
First I have to start with the true faith, the Orthodox faith.
The Orthodox Church was the Church, created by God Jesus, by apostle Simon Petrus and the other apostles. To put it in perspective to the Catholic Church, he created the Church in Antioch before he created the Church in Rome, and the Church in Antioch is still Orthodox Christian and still following the teachings of God.
Us Orthodox still follow the teachings of Jesus. We follow the saints and the Church Fathers. We follow the ecumenical councils which are very important to weed out heresy. Our faith is literally eternal, pure, and impossible to corrupt. The gates of hell shall never prevail over it. One bad apple can not ruin it, to change the Orthodox faith you would need all the Churches to agree to a change, and so far that has never happened, and will never happened, since it is the true Church. It is solid opposed to all the heretics who keeps becoming more heretic.
The Apostles layed hands and created bishops of the true faith. Those bishops layed hands and created new bishops. The Orthodox Church can trace every single bishop back to the apostles. My spiritual Father which I dont want to talk about too much to not get doxxed, is part of this straight line back to the apostles.
The Orthodox Church wrote the Bible with the Holy Spirit. Heretics found the Bible and made their own interpretations whereas we have the apostles, the Church Fathers, and the saints to explain it for us.
I doxx myself more and tell you that I belong to the Serbian Orthodox Patriarchy. The Serbian Orthodox endured both moslem and communist kike rule. During the moslem rule they literally had to give up their first born son to become a soldier for the Ottoman empire which was forced converted to the moslem faith. During communism atheism, even though they condemned "anti-semitism" and let synagouges open, the Churches were targetted. Priests and worshippers were targetted. Even during all of this they all kept their faith! What other faith endured this much and still refused to give up their faith? Why would we give up our faith when we aren't targetted like this?
I could write books more about why the Orthodox faith is obviously the true faith. It's so obvious. Orthobros argued with me and I was won over.
So about me: I was a Protestant, strong in my faith. I noticed how divided even two Protestants were. How Sionism was appearently a thing that was not allowed to be argued against or even about sometimes. Them literally killing our God was ok since shekels into their hands or something. It's literally in the Bible, His blood is on their hands. Not to mention the Talmud Gittin 57a https://www.chabad.org/torah-texts/5453289/The-Talmud/Gittin/Chapter-5/57a. A waste of time for me. No false teachings allowed in the Orthodox faith, we follow Jesus and His teachings. I repeat this, we follow Jesus and His teachings. It's that simple.
I was looking into becoming Catholic, with their great history of spreading the Word of God.
I learned about the great schism, Vatican I and Vatican II, the pope being infallible, what the recent popes have declared and done, such as the whores the popes had on without calling it out, endorsing blessing "same sex unions", literal endorsement of sodomites, pope kissing the hand of an imam, doing some satanic events with "different religions", and of course Novus Ordo church service, leaving the real faith of the the church Fathers.
I have to mention SSPX which I was very close to becoming. I still respect them. I respect the eastern rite Catholics. For me they still follow the faith, but as a baptized and anointed with myrrh Orthodox Christian, they are in schism with me. I am simply to new to the faith to understand. They should come back to the Church that God created through his apostles in my opinion.
MOST IMPORTANTLY: GOD LOVES YOU AND WANTS YOU TO COME BACK TO HIM! YOU ARE THE PRODIGAL SON!
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS! I WILL GLADLY ASK MY SPIRITUAL FATHER THEM AND TELL YOU THE ANSWER. THE CHURCH FATHERS ARE GREAT! AN ORTHODOX PRAYER BOOK IS GREAT! AS I AM SPEAKING THIS, YOU CAN STILL ASK CHAPGTP "according to the orthodox church, what does x" (in the future, who knows?)
Sorry for the misspellings and wrongs, I am tired and wanted to write this before going to bed to go to work since I am not a nigger or welfare bitch, I dont have the privilige of being an IDF satanic kike who posts for a living.
Best regards
A sinner and humble servant of God
First I have to say that you should visit your local Orthodox Church Father and not some internet retard/bot/myself.
First I have to start with the true faith, the Orthodox faith.
The Orthodox Church was the Church, created by God Jesus, by apostle Simon Petrus and the other apostles. To put it in perspective to the Catholic Church, he created the Church in Antioch before he created the Church in Rome, and the Church in Antioch is still Orthodox Christian and still following the teachings of God.
Us Orthodox still follow the teachings of Jesus. We follow the saints and the Church Fathers. We follow the ecumenical councils which are very important to weed out heresy. Our faith is literally eternal, pure, and impossible to corrupt. The gates of hell shall never prevail over it. One bad apple can not ruin it, to change the Orthodox faith you would need all the Churches to agree to a change, and so far that has never happened, and will never happened, since it is the true Church. It is solid opposed to all the heretics who keeps becoming more heretic.
The Apostles layed hands and created bishops of the true faith. Those bishops layed hands and created new bishops. The Orthodox Church can trace every single bishop back to the apostles. My spiritual Father which I dont want to talk about too much to not get doxxed, is part of this straight line back to the apostles.
The Orthodox Church wrote the Bible with the Holy Spirit. Heretics found the Bible and made their own interpretations whereas we have the apostles, the Church Fathers, and the saints to explain it for us.
I doxx myself more and tell you that I belong to the Serbian Orthodox Patriarchy. The Serbian Orthodox endured both moslem and communist kike rule. During the moslem rule they literally had to give up their first born son to become a soldier for the Ottoman empire which was forced converted to the moslem faith. During communism atheism, even though they condemned "anti-semitism" and let synagouges open, the Churches were targetted. Priests and worshippers were targetted. Even during all of this they all kept their faith! What other faith endured this much and still refused to give up their faith? Why would we give up our faith when we aren't targetted like this?
I could write books more about why the Orthodox faith is obviously the true faith. It's so obvious. Orthobros argued with me and I was won over.
So about me: I was a Protestant, strong in my faith. I noticed how divided even two Protestants were. How Sionism was appearently a thing that was not allowed to be argued against or even about sometimes. Them literally killing our God was ok since shekels into their hands or something. It's literally in the Bible, His blood is on their hands. Not to mention the Talmud Gittin 57a https://www.chabad.org/torah-texts/5453289/The-Talmud/Gittin/Chapter-5/57a. A waste of time for me. No false teachings allowed in the Orthodox faith, we follow Jesus and His teachings. I repeat this, we follow Jesus and His teachings. It's that simple.
I was looking into becoming Catholic, with their great history of spreading the Word of God.
I learned about the great schism, Vatican I and Vatican II, the pope being infallible, what the recent popes have declared and done, such as the whores the popes had on without calling it out, endorsing blessing "same sex unions", literal endorsement of sodomites, pope kissing the hand of an imam, doing some satanic events with "different religions", and of course Novus Ordo church service, leaving the real faith of the the church Fathers.
I have to mention SSPX which I was very close to becoming. I still respect them. I respect the eastern rite Catholics. For me they still follow the faith, but as a baptized and anointed with myrrh Orthodox Christian, they are in schism with me. I am simply to new to the faith to understand. They should come back to the Church that God created through his apostles in my opinion.
MOST IMPORTANTLY: GOD LOVES YOU AND WANTS YOU TO COME BACK TO HIM! YOU ARE THE PRODIGAL SON!
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS! I WILL GLADLY ASK MY SPIRITUAL FATHER THEM AND TELL YOU THE ANSWER. THE CHURCH FATHERS ARE GREAT! AN ORTHODOX PRAYER BOOK IS GREAT! AS I AM SPEAKING THIS, YOU CAN STILL ASK CHAPGTP "according to the orthodox church, what does x" (in the future, who knows?)
Sorry for the misspellings and wrongs, I am tired and wanted to write this before going to bed to go to work since I am not a nigger or welfare bitch, I dont have the privilige of being an IDF satanic kike who posts for a living.
Best regards
A sinner and humble servant of God
catholics revere a jew who worships at mosques and encourages drag queen faggotry as the conduit of God. They're the most kiked
Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy were united as 1 church with different rites up until around the year 1054. At that point there was a Schism and the Orthodox broke off from the Roman church. They essentially hold the same beliefs on a lot of core doctrine. They both believe in saints and share the same saints up until the 11th century, they believe in apostolic succession, they believe in the eucharist and 7 sacraments etc.
In terms of based, you shouldn't look for the true religion because of how based it may come across because you will be basing it off of emotion. You should be primarily concerned with finding what's true and sending your soul to heaven. Something you need to understand that most people on this board, as well as most "online" Christians only LARP as Christian, they don't actually attend Mass or Divine Liturgy, they don't try to grow in virtue, they never fast or abstain from meat, they never pray, they take habitually the Lords name in vain, and they are very uncharitable argue in bad faith etc. They look at it as an ever escalating way to score more "based" points online.
That being said, anyone telling you there aren't problems within their sect of Christianity is flat out lying. There are lots of problems with modernism in every branch of Christianity right now, I mean the world is a mess. I personally believe Traditional Catholicism is the true religion and I believe if you earnestly do your own research you will come to the same conclusions. But there is definitely a huge crisis in the Catholic Church right now regarding modernism.
I like what the Orthodox poster said, don't listen to a guy on an online board, go to a priest who's spent years in seminary studying theology. However I recommend you go to an SSPX or Traditional Catholic priest who will have a very good traditional formation. Some on the face reasons I think the Orthodox are not the One Holy Catholic Apostolic church is because they don't have the 4 marks of the true church, as soon as the great schism happened tons of Eastern Orthodox countries were immediately conquered by Islam whereas Catholic Spain was the only country in history to ever reclaim captured Islamic territory, which was during the Reconquista, and Catholicism spread like a wildfire throughout the world afterwards. Also if it wasn't for the Pope and Rome uniting a navy and winning a decisive battle during the Battle of Lepanto (Our Lady of Victory) Europe would have largely been conquered by Islam
I've personally never heard a convincing argument for Protestantism, it originated when Martin Luther split off in the 16th century from the Roman Catholic church. There are over 300 sects now and they all have wildly contradictory beliefs.
Most people don't actually know about what Catholics believe about the Pope or in general. We don't believe he is God, nor that he is a king that can change dogma and doctrine (he can't). He is only infallible when he speaks solemnly from his seat on matters of faith and morals. This has only happened once in the past 100 years and it was to define dogma in response to a heresy that was spreading against and already accepted belief in the Church. There can and have been bad Popes, and the Pope can be wrong about things.
Anyway it's kind of like drinking from a firehose, I'm trying to stay away from "gotcha" points against other denominations. Everyone will have an argument for their side which is why hearing it from a priest is the way to go.
In terms of based, you shouldn't look for the true religion because of how based it may come across because you will be basing it off of emotion. You should be primarily concerned with finding what's true and sending your soul to heaven. Something you need to understand that most people on this board, as well as most "online" Christians only LARP as Christian, they don't actually attend Mass or Divine Liturgy, they don't try to grow in virtue, they never fast or abstain from meat, they never pray, they take habitually the Lords name in vain, and they are very uncharitable argue in bad faith etc. They look at it as an ever escalating way to score more "based" points online.
That being said, anyone telling you there aren't problems within their sect of Christianity is flat out lying. There are lots of problems with modernism in every branch of Christianity right now, I mean the world is a mess. I personally believe Traditional Catholicism is the true religion and I believe if you earnestly do your own research you will come to the same conclusions. But there is definitely a huge crisis in the Catholic Church right now regarding modernism.
I like what the Orthodox poster said, don't listen to a guy on an online board, go to a priest who's spent years in seminary studying theology. However I recommend you go to an SSPX or Traditional Catholic priest who will have a very good traditional formation. Some on the face reasons I think the Orthodox are not the One Holy Catholic Apostolic church is because they don't have the 4 marks of the true church, as soon as the great schism happened tons of Eastern Orthodox countries were immediately conquered by Islam whereas Catholic Spain was the only country in history to ever reclaim captured Islamic territory, which was during the Reconquista, and Catholicism spread like a wildfire throughout the world afterwards. Also if it wasn't for the Pope and Rome uniting a navy and winning a decisive battle during the Battle of Lepanto (Our Lady of Victory) Europe would have largely been conquered by Islam
I've personally never heard a convincing argument for Protestantism, it originated when Martin Luther split off in the 16th century from the Roman Catholic church. There are over 300 sects now and they all have wildly contradictory beliefs.
Most people don't actually know about what Catholics believe about the Pope or in general. We don't believe he is God, nor that he is a king that can change dogma and doctrine (he can't). He is only infallible when he speaks solemnly from his seat on matters of faith and morals. This has only happened once in the past 100 years and it was to define dogma in response to a heresy that was spreading against and already accepted belief in the Church. There can and have been bad Popes, and the Pope can be wrong about things.
Anyway it's kind of like drinking from a firehose, I'm trying to stay away from "gotcha" points against other denominations. Everyone will have an argument for their side which is why hearing it from a priest is the way to go.
The Roman church broke away from the One True Church. It was the Roman dogs who declared their bishop infallible and made him a king. The West Frankian king Karl, to you known as Charlemagne, was instrumental in the early Frankocratic, schismatic murmurs. 1054 is a big date, but its not where Rome began to stray from the One True Church.
Compare Western Europe under One True Church and Gallicism to Western Europe under Carolingian Frankocratia and Papism. The bishop is supposed to be a subject to the king, and the king is supposed to be baptized and coronated and legitimized by the bishop, his subject.
Give that which is God's unto God, and that which is Caesar's unto Caesar. That is why taxes are in fact not inherently evil or wrong, the problem is and will always be the khazarians.
Compare Western Europe under One True Church and Gallicism to Western Europe under Carolingian Frankocratia and Papism. The bishop is supposed to be a subject to the king, and the king is supposed to be baptized and coronated and legitimized by the bishop, his subject.
Give that which is God's unto God, and that which is Caesar's unto Caesar. That is why taxes are in fact not inherently evil or wrong, the problem is and will always be the khazarians.
Well, "based" - on the Internet, Orthobros are more based, in real life the Orthodoxy is basically just cultural and in real-life Orthodox priests are more soy and it's all about Russian politics. The question is more, is it true or not, which side was right.
Short version:
1. Orthodox don't like the pope, so they say the papacy is an invention
2. Orthodox say that the pope edited the Nicene Creed by adding the Filioque and therefore all Catholics go to hell
3. They also don't believe in purgatory, Marian dogmas and some other stuff
Basically Constantinople had lots of political power around the year 1000 and Rome didn't and so the Eastern Bishops thought the concept of a Roman pope was useless and stopped praying for him. Then 40 years later they got excommunicated, although the split wasn't a massive difference at first, with both sides joining against Islam later on.
Then Constantinople (now Istanbul) got sacked by Islamist forces and their center of influence moved to Moscow. 50+ % of Eastern Orthodox belong to the Russian Orthodox Church, so the politics are heavily skewed towards whatever Russia does.
In 1439 there was the Council of Florence where they even resolved their differences (under pressure from the rise of Ottomans), their anti-Western population revolted against the Eastern bishops as "sellouts" when they came home. They accused the pope of not helping them defend Constantinople in 1204, despite the fact that the pope never ordered that. Anyway, ever since then they've been pulling the "West has fallen" propaganda. So, despite the fact that they basically agreed to everything with the Catholics in 1439, they later renounced everything and declared Catholics as heretics.
Both have been heavily infiltrated by freemasons since about the 1910s, which later made the whole "ecumenical prayer" from Assisi 1983 possible, which is heretical from both the Catholic and Orthodox perspective (praying together with people considered schismatic, doesn't matter which side you're on).
The modern "Catholic" Church is kiked since Vatican II, the modern "Orthodox" Church is kiked since about the 1930s. The only Orthodox I respect are [HOTCA](https://www.hotca.org/), because they openly expose the freemasonry in mainstream Orthodoxy. I'm Catholic (traditional, not the gay boomer Novus Ordo type), but I can respect honest Orthodox.
https://www.churchfathers.org/ is a good introduction on the Church Fathers (Orthodox reject certain Church Fathers) and [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y1cABhLc2o) is a good YT documentary on what happened in the 60s to the Catholic Church. For based content I'd recommend [Bishop Williamson](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyMCWXaVieY), he was very based (RIP).
If you're interested, I can DM you links on where to go, obviously I can't really post these links in the open.
Short version:
1. Orthodox don't like the pope, so they say the papacy is an invention
2. Orthodox say that the pope edited the Nicene Creed by adding the Filioque and therefore all Catholics go to hell
3. They also don't believe in purgatory, Marian dogmas and some other stuff
Basically Constantinople had lots of political power around the year 1000 and Rome didn't and so the Eastern Bishops thought the concept of a Roman pope was useless and stopped praying for him. Then 40 years later they got excommunicated, although the split wasn't a massive difference at first, with both sides joining against Islam later on.
Then Constantinople (now Istanbul) got sacked by Islamist forces and their center of influence moved to Moscow. 50+ % of Eastern Orthodox belong to the Russian Orthodox Church, so the politics are heavily skewed towards whatever Russia does.
In 1439 there was the Council of Florence where they even resolved their differences (under pressure from the rise of Ottomans), their anti-Western population revolted against the Eastern bishops as "sellouts" when they came home. They accused the pope of not helping them defend Constantinople in 1204, despite the fact that the pope never ordered that. Anyway, ever since then they've been pulling the "West has fallen" propaganda. So, despite the fact that they basically agreed to everything with the Catholics in 1439, they later renounced everything and declared Catholics as heretics.
Both have been heavily infiltrated by freemasons since about the 1910s, which later made the whole "ecumenical prayer" from Assisi 1983 possible, which is heretical from both the Catholic and Orthodox perspective (praying together with people considered schismatic, doesn't matter which side you're on).
The modern "Catholic" Church is kiked since Vatican II, the modern "Orthodox" Church is kiked since about the 1930s. The only Orthodox I respect are [HOTCA](https://www.hotca.org/), because they openly expose the freemasonry in mainstream Orthodoxy. I'm Catholic (traditional, not the gay boomer Novus Ordo type), but I can respect honest Orthodox.
https://www.churchfathers.org/ is a good introduction on the Church Fathers (Orthodox reject certain Church Fathers) and [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y1cABhLc2o) is a good YT documentary on what happened in the 60s to the Catholic Church. For based content I'd recommend [Bishop Williamson](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyMCWXaVieY), he was very based (RIP).
If you're interested, I can DM you links on where to go, obviously I can't really post these links in the open.
I believe in one God, Father Almighty, Creator of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible.
And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, begotten of the Father before all ages; Light of Light, true God of true God, begotten, not created, of one essence with the Father through Whom all things were made. Who for us men and for our salvation came down from heaven and was incarnate of the Holy Spirit and the Virgin Mary and became man. He was crucified for us under Pontius Pilate, and suffered and was buried; And He rose on the third day, according to the Scriptures. He ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father; And He will come again with glory to judge the living and dead. His kingdom shall have no end.
And in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the Creator of life, Who proceeds from the Father, Who together with the Father and the Son is worshipped and glorified, Who spoke through the prophets.
In one, holy, catholic, and apostolic Church.
I confess one baptism for the forgiveness of sins.
I look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the age to come.
Amin.
There IS only One, True, Holy, Catholic (Kata Olon) and Apostolic Church of Our Lord Jesus Christ, His indivisible body into which we become through baptism as the first mystery and regular participation in all the other mysteries afterwards, foremostly Confession and Repentance, and Holy Communion.
The Church is more than just a human institution following a bunch of rules. The Church is not the bishop, the priest, the deacon or the layman. Christ God is the Church, the Eternal Logos, Word of God, God Become Man.
And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, begotten of the Father before all ages; Light of Light, true God of true God, begotten, not created, of one essence with the Father through Whom all things were made. Who for us men and for our salvation came down from heaven and was incarnate of the Holy Spirit and the Virgin Mary and became man. He was crucified for us under Pontius Pilate, and suffered and was buried; And He rose on the third day, according to the Scriptures. He ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father; And He will come again with glory to judge the living and dead. His kingdom shall have no end.
And in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the Creator of life, Who proceeds from the Father, Who together with the Father and the Son is worshipped and glorified, Who spoke through the prophets.
In one, holy, catholic, and apostolic Church.
I confess one baptism for the forgiveness of sins.
I look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the age to come.
Amin.
There IS only One, True, Holy, Catholic (Kata Olon) and Apostolic Church of Our Lord Jesus Christ, His indivisible body into which we become through baptism as the first mystery and regular participation in all the other mysteries afterwards, foremostly Confession and Repentance, and Holy Communion.
The Church is more than just a human institution following a bunch of rules. The Church is not the bishop, the priest, the deacon or the layman. Christ God is the Church, the Eternal Logos, Word of God, God Become Man.
The most based sect of Christianity, as in based in scripture and tradition, is confessional Lutheranism. This was the predominant religion of the 3rd Reich. Might I direct you to the Stone Choir podcast to learn more https://stone-choir.com/the-big-lie/
Catholics believe in:
*Universal jurisdiction of the bishop of Rome
*Dual procession of the Holy Spirit
*Immaculate conception of Saint Mary
*Purgatory
Eastern Orthodox don't accept any of these. Regarding your question, "what is the most based sect?" The answer is: anything other than Protestantism. Christianity is a spiritual, not political movement, even though it can intersect with politics. It goals and the working of the religion are ultimately spiritual. The question you should ask is "should I follow the Roman Catholics or Eastern Orthodox", since Protestantism is obviously wrong. I don't want to turn this website or thread into RC vs EO, which would become endless acts of sniping and fruitless arguing. I'll say this: God rewards those who diligently seek Him.
*Universal jurisdiction of the bishop of Rome
*Dual procession of the Holy Spirit
*Immaculate conception of Saint Mary
*Purgatory
Eastern Orthodox don't accept any of these. Regarding your question, "what is the most based sect?" The answer is: anything other than Protestantism. Christianity is a spiritual, not political movement, even though it can intersect with politics. It goals and the working of the religion are ultimately spiritual. The question you should ask is "should I follow the Roman Catholics or Eastern Orthodox", since Protestantism is obviously wrong. I don't want to turn this website or thread into RC vs EO, which would become endless acts of sniping and fruitless arguing. I'll say this: God rewards those who diligently seek Him.
Good summary, but if you actually ask most RC or EO what they believe they can't answer you. That's because these churches are defined by a common tradition and culture rather than theology. "Protestantism", which you ought to understand if you're going to critique, is an act of drawing boundaries by theology. It's nearly a useless term now but it initially referred to three different branches of disagreement with rome: anabaptist, calvinist, and Lutheran. Notice Anglican is not included. When most people say protestant what they really mean is "American spiritualism", or nondenominational/heretical franchise "churches" with no real theology.
What is considered real theology?
Real theology as in an inquiry into the divine. The foundation for that in a Christian context is a confession of belief, which is used as a starting point. A shared confession means more theologians working from the same premise. What I see in American spiritualism are disjointed and obscure confessions, if a church has one at all. That means that they have trouble importing any traditional theology and difficulty clarifying what they actually believe.
My understanding: Orthodox are awesome and I love them. Catholics are decent and I love them too.
Anyways, as far as the difference between the two, I think you'll find that Catholics are more "institutional" and Orthodox are more "community-based." Meaning, Catholics have a top-down hierarchy with all the corporate structure you'd expect. If that's your poison, you'll have a lot of fun being Catholic. Orthodox are more about building communities. If you join there, you'll become part of a tightly-knit community with a definite leader but lacking a lot of the corporate stuff you wouldn't expect to see in a mom-and-pop store.
As far as "based", probably Orthodox since they seem to be more connected with reality than Catholics. Catholics tend to be more left-leaning wherever they go.
Anyways, as far as the difference between the two, I think you'll find that Catholics are more "institutional" and Orthodox are more "community-based." Meaning, Catholics have a top-down hierarchy with all the corporate structure you'd expect. If that's your poison, you'll have a lot of fun being Catholic. Orthodox are more about building communities. If you join there, you'll become part of a tightly-knit community with a definite leader but lacking a lot of the corporate stuff you wouldn't expect to see in a mom-and-pop store.
As far as "based", probably Orthodox since they seem to be more connected with reality than Catholics. Catholics tend to be more left-leaning wherever they go.
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