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posted 24 days ago by ScallionPancake on scored.co (+0 / -0 / +35Score on mirror )
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ScallionPancake on scored.co
23 days ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror ) 1 child
No he said:

> Germ theory is a jewish hoax

Butttoucha9k on scored.co
23 days ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 2 children
Which means he believes in terrain theory only. He may in fact believe that bacteria dont have an effect on humans or whatever. Idk im not him. But terrain theory does not say that bacteria dont exist. It says that they arent the cause of sickness. I personally believe that viruses dont exist, that they are exosomes from dying cells that cause cascade effects in the body on a cellular level, and that dying bacteria in our bodies can cause those same responses. Like I said, a blend of the two. They dont have to be mutually exclusive.
Niemo on scored.co
23 days ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror ) 1 child
I just don't understand how we can observe microscopically, germs invading destroying and reproducing and then say that damage isn't causing illness.
Butttoucha9k on scored.co
23 days ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 2 children
We dont see *viruses* doing that. And we dont see bacteria doing that either.

We DO see bacteria invading the body and then see a response. Terrain theory posits that the bacteria dying releases matter that causes cellular response if the body is disregulated. Its essentially a different way to look at the underlying cause of the same phenomena.

We have never seen a live virus. You cant see living things in an electron microscope.


Niemo on scored.co
23 days ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
We can see snap shots of this process.
Butttoucha9k on scored.co
23 days ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
Not of the same thing. Any "sequence of action" captured my electron microscope would be different samples cooled together.

Look, im not saying it isn't right. Im saying that there are flaws in the theory that need to be understood and addressed, and we as critical thinking white men need to be made aware that these questions exist and have validity. This shouldn't be an either or argument but a collaborative discussion.
Niemo on scored.co
23 days ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
Terrain theory says that bacteria are a stage of development of microorganisms that exist within us already in a benign state and just transform upon arrival at diseased tissue into a pathogen. So if you see the bacteria arriving and causing disease you are a proponent of germ theory.
Butttoucha9k on scored.co
23 days ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
Im not for or against either in their totality. I think that both have valuable merit and both have flaws.
WeedleTLiar on scored.co
23 days ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
Honest question, what proof do you have that exosomes exist that you don't have for virus' existing?
Butttoucha9k on scored.co
23 days ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
The same electron microscope images you have to prove that viruses exist. You cant take a live image of anything with an electron microscope. They see this tiny thing and say "that's a virus and it does this". The exact same thing can be described a different way. The phenomena is the same. The treatment and prevention approach are different.
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