Forgive your enemies, but defend your Folk
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Killing animals for food isn't evil. It is a basic necessity to eat meat for us. Killing enemies isn't evil. In wars it is common, and in civil environments the only problem is that killing enemies in peaceful areas raises conflict to your own kin as well. Demoralizing your enemies isn't evil. It is part of winning the conflict. Doing nothing gives free reign to your enemies, and if ALL of your people can do nothing more than "see?! I told you so!!" then nothing will get done and your enemy can continue with impunity.
If you are not willing to do that, your folk is the one who gets destroyed by its enemies. Is it good that your people, your family, your children suffer for your "pacifism"? This idea that you need to become evil in order to best evil is false. You're NEVER going to win peacefully, what people consider "good."
True "good" means you are willing to sacrifice yourself and your well-being for the sake of your people. And this may mean sacrificing your consciousness of what is evil to do what is best for your people. Become evil so that future generations don't have to be. This is what it means to become a soldier, to walk home with PTSD, having a kill count, possibly getting crippled or killed. You take that burden, so that others do not have to.
Himmler talked about this, it's also a reason why I chose my username.
> evil is needlessly inflicting pain and suffering
No, evil is pain and suffering. Death is evil. Sickness is evil. Going hungry is evil. Being poor is evil. Being weak is evil. Being alone is evil.
"Evil" and "bad" are really the same things. Something that is bad for you is evil.
> Killing animals for food isn't evil. It is a basic necessity to eat meat for us.
Killing and eating animals is good, because eating is good and starving is evil.
> Killing enemies isn't evil.
Killing people trying to kill you is good, because being killed is evil.
> True "good" means you are willing to sacrifice yourself and your well-being for the sake of your people.
No.
"Sacrifice" is when you give up one thing for something better. It is not good to give up good things. So part of the equation of the sacrifice involves evil.
So if the net of the sacrifice isn't good, don't do it -- it is evil.
> become evil so future generations don't have to be
This is nonsense.
You guys really need to understand Nietzsche. "God is dead" he said "because YOU KILLED HIM."
Stop killing God.
Then you must be vegetarian and never harm your enemies. Unless they justify self-defence actions, they can do whatever they want against you. Like impoverish you, censor you, kick you out of your home, let you starve, have you go into gulags, etc.
> Death is evil. Sickness is evil. Going hungry is evil. Being poor is evil. Being weak is evil. Being alone is evil.
So nature and reality is evil? If such things can be evil, your idea of "evil" totally goes astray. Good and evil is used for humans to determine their moral alignments, not for random situations, animals and objects.
And in my view good and evil is way more complex than people would like it to be. For example handing food to niggers isn't "good", nor keeping a retard alive forever, who needs permanent intensive care to have a life as a vegetable.
> Something that is bad for you is evil.
That is a fringe interpretation of it. What if a serial rapist is hungry? What if a jew perpetrating a multi-billion fraud scheme has a cough?
> "Sacrifice" is when you give up one thing for something better. It is not good to give up good things.
That just goes further into detail of the reasoning of sacrifice. Obviously you won't sacrifice your child for a Lego piece.
> You guys really need to understand Nietzsche. "God is dead" he said "because YOU KILLED HIM."
That's completely unrelated. Refer to what I said. I said "become evil so future generations don't have to be" in the context that it's a misconception of what "evil" even is. If you would gleefully slaughter your enemies and return a hero, that's even better - but that's not how people think.
I eradicated a nest of 500+ aggressive wasps, and it took quite some effort and waiting for the right opportunity. None of them survived. I returned as an unsung hero that day - I am still proud of it. Should I have contemplated about the "evil" act I committed? One of them stung me, and that day their fate was sealed.
It's that simple. When TND and TKD are on the table, I will think the same. If you think that's evil, that's idiotic, but have consolation in the thought that future generations won't have to do what we have to do.
And this "The only way to destroy evil is to become evil" idea is nonsense. Just don't teach children the Talmud, lol.
It seems like you agree.
It is not bad to kill people who intend to kill you. Period. In fact, it is bad to NOT kill people who intend to kill you.
As far as morality, it's very, very simple. What is good to one person is not necessarily good to another. In other words, things do not inherently have a "good" or "evil" trait embedded in them. What makes something good or bad is how someone interprets it. Without someone to say "I don't like this" or "this is nice" there is no good or evil at all.
The problem people get into is they think that just because morality is subjective (specifically meaning it depends on the person who is affected by it) that morality is relative (meaning it depends on the perspective of the person looking at it.) Or that people can somehow redefine what is good for them because they prefer death or starvation or things like that, which is nonsense.
Living is good. Death is bad. Food is good. Poison is bad. Etc...
And from there you have to ask what is more important: MY being alive, or YOUR being alive? Obviously, for YOU, YOU being alive is most important, and for ME, me being alive is most important. And then you start to see how one thing can be good for one person but bad for another. Then you see that having power over other people is inherently good, because you get the things you want.
Not when God is on your side. In the end, God wins.
It is not "evil" to fight to protect your family, your nation, your religion, etc...
We need to get rid of this idea totally. Killing is not necessarily evil. In fact, sometimes NOT killing IS evil.