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Who says I believe the roman empire never existed? I didn't mean to say the bible is not based in some tiny bits of truth, for example Rome did control Judea, sure. And the jews were slaves to Egypt pharaohs ok, but the rest is just made up fluff.
Also, I'm not saying Jesus message was bad or even that Christian morality is bad. I actually think it's good and follow it. I just don't believe the mysticism, the supernatural part of it, it's too far fetched.
Conservative Atheists, not the jew left-tard ones are the ones that use logic to conclude we should be good. Atheists on this board understand that jews are inherently assholish, selfish, and tribal in their behavior and need to be quarantined for the good of the world.
Also if god created hell and death and time, because in the "in the beginning there was nothing", it took him 3 days to conquer what he himself had the power to create? Then the motherfucker isn't omnipotent. Or was he just taking the tour of death (how do you even take a tour of a concept?) and hell and then fighting and subduing it? Christianity's mysticism is a psyop. Despite what you have been indoctrinated with, you can be good without god.
I think that's why so many christians are scared of non-belief. The rest are scared of hell, which is a wonderful way to coerce your followers to worship you. If god were truly loving, he would not ask a fucking thing-- not even belief in him, yet according to christians and the bible, god is a jealous god.
Take a look at commandment 1, no other gods before me. And then the one about don't be covetous. Seems like god can be covetous all he wants (of your attention) while you must worship him first (but don't worry you can still worship other gods, but they have to be after god #1). It's not logical and that's why we don't believe the mysticism.
>Who says I believe the roman empire never existed?
If you don't believe in the Bible's events but believe Rome ever existed, then you are illogical.
>but the rest is just made up fluff
You really need to learn how scholastic history works. The Bible has significantly more proof behind it than the entire American Civil War and Independence from Britain combined.
>I just don't believe the mysticism, the supernatural part of it, it's too far fetched.
This is exactly how the jew indoctrinated you through propaganda.
>and tribal in their behavior and need to be quarantined for the good of the world.
Tribal behavior isn't inherently bad, we should be tribal as the White race, particularly in monoethnic nationalism. But the question I have for you is: how do you define what's good and bad without God? (I already know the answer is that you can't, so I want you to critically think about it with your White brain)
>Also if god created hell and death and time, because in the "in the beginning there was nothing", it took him 3 days to conquer what he himself had the power to create? Then the motherfucker isn't omnipotent. Or was he just taking the tour of death (how do you even take a tour of a concept?) and hell and then fighting and subduing it?
He is omnipotent, and I just gave you a logical reason why He *chose* three days over instant conquering. He probably did conquer it instantly and didn't even need to die in the first place, it was all for us to fulfill His covenant. Another good reason why is because our laws back then made adultery punishable by death, so by dying He was able to forgive us for our race mixing with non-Whites.
>Despite what you have been indoctrinated with, you can be good without god.
No, you really can't.
>If god were truly loving, he would not ask a fucking thing-- not even belief in him, yet according to christians and the bible, god is a jealous god.
God gave you free will. You have the choice to follow Him or not. And if you put down your jewish indoctrination for half a second, you'd realize that the act of following Him in your free will is what makes White nations great and strong and unjewable.
>Take a look at commandment 1, no other gods before me. And then the one about don't be covetous. Seems like god can be covetous all he wants (of your attention) while you must worship him first (but don't worry you can still worship other gods, but they have to be after god #1). It's not logical
Who is the stronger husband and father: The one who comes home and immediately praises God and gives thanks for all the blessings in His life like his wife and kids or the father that immediately sits down and watches TV and plays video games, treating those as his "idols" over God? There are no other gods, there's just God. So Him being "covetous" is just Him teaching you how to not be a jewed retarded shithead.
>that's why we don't believe the mysticism.
You do realize miracles continue to be performed today, right?
The bible is at best historical fiction. I don't doubt that Romans invaded Judea. That's not up for debate, plenty of sources describe it. Just because one book mentions real things, then the entire thing is true in your world? Suspension of disbelief is strong with you.
How about these bangers....one guy went around the entire world (even Australia and the Americas) and collected two of every animal and put it on his boat to ride out a storm that flooded the entire earth. And Eve slept with her kid and we're all inbred. Or that lady that was turned into a pillar of salt for looking back. Or the time god and the devil had a betting competition over who could best fuck over a blameless vulnerable adult named Job. Or the guy that beat up an angel. Oh I love the story about the guy that literally parted the Red Sea on command and then led his followers around the desert until they all died because god got mad at them for celebrating the end of their bondage too hard.
> Tribal behavior isn't inherently bad.
I agree, it depends on the tribe. But wait, are YOU making a morality judgement? hmm... I thought only god was allowed to do that..
God gave free will, okay let's suppose for a moment for the sake of argument that's true. Let's just assume and see the logic conclusion....
- God gives free will to his creations
- Creations use free will to displease god by using logic to not believe
- God gets angry. who coulda see this coming? Surely god could have?
- Either he's omnipotent and omniscient and he knows exactly what each of us will choose before we're even born, (whether to believe in him or not and whether we'll make it to heaven), but still gives you the choice because ahhh fuck it he just wants to run the experiment anyway for his own amusement.
He knows the future right from the start, why even bother with the test? If you have a god that gives you free will and logic and then no reason besides blind faith to believe in him then gets angry at you for using logic (that he gave you in the first place) and lack of compelling evidence, then you have a petty and shitty god, one that is definitely not worthy of worship.
> So Him being "covetous" is just Him teaching
Bro gave me free will why bother teaching the right way if you can just instill the right way.
What if I told you that being an atheist you can still...
- be disgusted by faggots
- NOT want to live in harmony with the lesser human races
- NOT think women whoring around is progress.
Many an atheist do espouse those feelings, but you won't find those degenerates around this board.
Says who? The jews. Historians, scholars, scientists, and otherwise educated researchers all agree it's a historical document.
>Just because one book mentions real things, then the entire thing is true in your world? Suspension of disbelief is strong with you.
One book? There's billions of evidence showing and proving the vast majority of the Bible's events being true. Not everything has been proven yet, but most has and not a single thing has ever been disproven or discredited. Suspension of disbelief is strong with *you*.
>How about these bangers....one guy went around the entire world (even Australia and the Americas) and collected two of every animal and put it on his boat to ride out a storm that flooded the entire earth.
The flood was local, not worldwide. He only brought enough animals to restart a small ecosystem for his local family, like a homesteader. You can find more information here: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/_wrLHLUlrJc
>And Eve slept with her kid and we're all inbred.
We literally have White DNA going all the way back to Adam who only had 23 chromosomes. Would you rather inbreed or race mix? The choice is simple for the survival of the White race, and back then it was sanctioned by God so there were no genetic issues, in fact it kept the genes clear and perfect.
>Or that lady that was turned into a pillar of salt for looking back.
Seems completely logical and believable. I don't know why you think it wouldn't be.
>Or the time god and the devil had a betting competition over who could best fuck over a blameless vulnerable adult named Job.
Job's legacy is impacting you even today as you talk about it. Are you too stupid to realize that?
>Or the guy that beat up an angel.
Yes, Jacob-Israel, your ancestors, the reason why you're blessed to be superior over everyone else as a White. Or do you deny White supremacy? lmfao.
>Oh I love the story about the guy that literally parted the Red Sea on command and then led his followers around the desert until they all died because god got mad at them for celebrating the end of their bondage too hard.
They didn't all die. You're literally here right now, retard.
>But wait, are YOU making a morality judgement? hmm... I thought only god was allowed to do that..
??? "*Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.*" - John 7:24
>Either he's omnipotent and omniscient and he knows exactly what each of us will choose before we're even born, (whether to believe in him or not and whether we'll make it to heaven), but still gives you the choice because ahhh fuck it he just wants to run the experiment anyway for his own amusement.
God knows ever path we can take and lets us choose which path. If we stray from that path, of course He gets mad. Don't you get mad at your fellow Whites when they race mix and forever ruin their bloodline and DNA? Let's say you have pets. You love to watch your pets just do pet things, and you love it when your pets love you. You get mad at your pets when they disobey you and especially when they attack you. Your pets have free will; their love for you is genuine because they choose to love you out of their free will. If you created them and gave them no free will, then they'd just be robotic slaves. Giving us free will really is the ultimate love any Father can have for their children. So now that you know you have free will and infinity possibilities, are you going to choose what's naturally correct, makes you completely fulfilled and happy, keeps you and your nations White and strong and go to Heaven, or are you going to disobey because some jews told you "Christianity bad" because you're too stupid to research anything yourself as your White nation continues to collapse?
>He knows the future right from the start, why even bother with the test? If you have a god that gives you free will and logic and then no reason besides blind faith to believe in him then gets angry at you for using logic (that he gave you in the first place) and lack of compelling evidence, then you have a petty and shitty god, one that is definitely not worthy of worship.
See above.
>Bro gave me free will why bother teaching the right way if you can just instill the right way.
He did instill the right way. Satan tricked Adam and Eve into the Tree of Knowledge, therefore we now have today's world. Also, see above.
>be disgusted by faggots
Why would you be disgusted by faggots? You're totally fine with letting everyone do whatever they want.
>NOT want to live in harmony with the lesser human races
Okay what is your moral justification for that? Who told you they're lesser and why would it be right to live separate from those that act more White?
>NOT think women whoring around is progress.
And why do you think that? To you, women are just breeding machines so who cares if she has a body count of 1000 as long as she can continue producing more offspring for your species to survive, or better yet, why do you care that your species survives or dies?
Reread the story of noah again. It says god killed EVERY LIVING THING. The fact that Chriaitans change the story to try to make it more plausible ( it was only local) and then make excuses to say its nuanced or its metaphor is just cope. And you all do it because none if it holds scientific rigor. the book is supposed to be the literal word of God and now you gotta make excuses.
Woman turned to stone... "seems plausible to me"... lol come on man now I know you're just trolling.
And we already know God is ok with murdering everyone and every living thing, as soon as Adam and Eve became self aware why didnt God hit the reset button, why did he wait until later to murder the earth, he knew the future right, so was he just counting down the years until he could murder everyone for fun.
Nah the real answer is God doesn't exist and you are a dipshit for believing.
And were only talking about Christians, not to mention all the other religions that are equally retarded magical. The same reason you don't believe them is the same reason. I don't believe in any of them.
Okay, jew. You're the one saying Christianity is illogical and wrong and trying to subvert it out of White culture.
>Reread the story of noah again. It says god killed EVERY LIVING THING.
Wrong. Look at the context of every passage written plus the original texts that Moses wrote. For example, in Exodus 10:15, it's written the Egyptian plagues "the face of all *the earth*" or הָאָרֶץ֮, but obviously they only happened in Egypt. So when he wrote Genesis 6, he used the word אֶרֶץ which means localized land, a country, a territory. The word for "whole world" is תֵּבֵל, so if he meant it covered the whole world he would've said תֵּבֵל instead.
>The fact that Chriaitans change the story to try to make it more plausible ( it was only local) and then make excuses to say its nuanced or its metaphor is just cope.
No, the fact that you fell for jewish propaganda and can't study basic things like this shows you're just an idiot who depends on someone else to tell you what to think and believe. "If you don't have an identity in God, the jews will create your identity for you."
>And you all do it because none if it holds scientific rigor. the book is supposed to be the literal word of God and now you gotta make excuses.
What excuses? It completely holds up "scientific rigor."
>Woman turned to stone... "seems plausible to me"... lol come on man now I know you're just trolling.
I mean you're the one claiming the flood covered the whole earth yet you think God can't turn a woman to stone? Let's start with something even more basic. How do you think the pyramids were built? You really think some slaves somehow used primitive ropes and pulleys and carried all those stones? If you're not a fucking retard and have the ability to think scientifically, go truly study the pyramids for about 30 mins and watch how fast your theory falls apart.
>And we already know God is ok with murdering everyone and every living thing, as soon as Adam and Eve became self aware why didnt God hit the reset button, why did he wait until later to murder the earth, he knew the future right, so was he just counting down the years until he could murder everyone for fun.
We have the free will to determine the outcomes of the earth. And no, He's not going to murder everyone and everything, He's just going to murder all the non-Whites especially the jews who He will make worship before our feet first. He clearly states the righteous will inherit the land and dwell therein forever as Christ reigns.
>Nah the real answer is God doesn't exist and you are a dipshit for believing.
Is that why you can't counter the argument?
>The same reason you don't believe them is the same reason. I don't believe in any of them.
I don't believe in anything but Truth, which is the only thing that is anti-jew. You believe in jewish nonsense and can't defend your points so you change the argument like you're doing right now.