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Nobody cares until it threatens your life personally. The common german didn't care about the fact that the russian empire became the soviet union, they even supported it (even possibly hitler in very early post ww1 germany, but this is debatable and nevertheless didnt last long). The common german didn't even care when they started annexing territory, because all of those places were bad guys who were still attached to the russian empire. The bolsheviks were the good guys, german allies funded by the kaiser. It was only after they invaded Poland and funded revolutions in germany proper that they realized that they weren't dealing with the same old russian nemesis anymore, and that their idea to build an ally out of the bolsheviks was a hopeless one.
Since some may be interested in the reference to hitler, I decided to include some information here: hitler may or may not have supported the bavarian soviet Republic. I've seen various opinions and scholarly articles going both ways on this, so I don't know what to believe about it myself. The only thing that's known is that he was in Bavaria and he was politically active, but he was a nobody at the time, so not much fuss was made about him at all. Hitler was very vague about this period in mein kampf as well, so theres legitimately very little to go off of. But if he were at one point briefly red, it would make sense that hitler would treat that part of his life like a college aged man would treat his social media posts from when he was 12. I've seen people claim that he went so far as aiding the revolution directly to saying that he aided the counter revolution, and everything in between. Most details on Adolf Hitlers life immediately after ww1 until around 1920 are hearsay and difficult to verify. But I believe that he was at least friendly with the reds, because Julius Schreck was part of the "red army" and he became hitlers earliest confidant, not to mention how many left wingers were actually in the early NSDAP and SA, so it seems reasonable that hitler had pull in leftist circles for a while and probably acquainted himself with a number of reds during his formative years. Mussolini did the same thing, but he was a devoted and well known communist that was backstabbed by his own community, so it's a bit different.
Not a real pact on either side though. Hitler had long since become an enemy of the soviets, and stalin disliked hitler. They both planned to invade each other, but they were biding time with the pact
Since some may be interested in the reference to hitler, I decided to include some information here: hitler may or may not have supported the bavarian soviet Republic. I've seen various opinions and scholarly articles going both ways on this, so I don't know what to believe about it myself. The only thing that's known is that he was in Bavaria and he was politically active, but he was a nobody at the time, so not much fuss was made about him at all. Hitler was very vague about this period in mein kampf as well, so theres legitimately very little to go off of. But if he were at one point briefly red, it would make sense that hitler would treat that part of his life like a college aged man would treat his social media posts from when he was 12. I've seen people claim that he went so far as aiding the revolution directly to saying that he aided the counter revolution, and everything in between. Most details on Adolf Hitlers life immediately after ww1 until around 1920 are hearsay and difficult to verify. But I believe that he was at least friendly with the reds, because Julius Schreck was part of the "red army" and he became hitlers earliest confidant, not to mention how many left wingers were actually in the early NSDAP and SA, so it seems reasonable that hitler had pull in leftist circles for a while and probably acquainted himself with a number of reds during his formative years. Mussolini did the same thing, but he was a devoted and well known communist that was backstabbed by his own community, so it's a bit different.