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> I'm a fighter, and I'd rather martyr for God.
You still don't understand what God wants. You are not even apart of Christs bride, the Church. How can you never have heard of turning the other cheek? It's not like you are fighting now anyway, you are here in front of your keyboard like me. But I have taken communion today and gotten closer to God.
> Two of them did. One of OCA and one from ROCOR. They specifically said "Saints and Church Fathers aren't perfect, not everything they say is infallible or without sin. Saint John Chrysostom was human like all of us, and all of us error." Here are the two parishes: https://www.holycrossoca.org/ https://www.rocorws.com/
They are right in that, we are all just humans. I believe that your approach got you the answers that suited you. You are not trying to learn from the Church, you are not trying to follow God, you have made up what you want God to want, based on what your flesh wants.
> Following God = hating jews.
Nope, we are not to hate anyone. It's not complicated. We leave the judgement to God. Hate the sin, not the sinner.
> I inquired in Orthodoxy because that's what all the OrthoBros, including the ones on here, were saying to do if you hate jews.
If you are just out to hate Jews, you are not out to follow God, you are just wasting your time and God is not with you. You will not gain Gods righteousness to support you hating Jews.
> And found that modern Orthodoxy is completely jewed just as you're admitting.
This is hilarious since we Orthodox are rejecting all the kike changes that has happened to every single other non-Orthodox church in the world. We are unchanged and still follow God, according to how God taught.
> Also, it's quite funny you say "No Orthodox Priest will deny one of the Church Fathers" then the very next point you're denying Saint John Chrysostom, a Church Father you quote in 90% of your Liturgies, who said it's the duty of all Christians to hate the jews.
I was wrong in how I formulated myself earlier. We do liturgy and prayers from Saint Chrysostom of course. None of the Homilies is main Orthodoxy agreed upon by all Churches. You are helping me understand Orthodoxy better and getting closer to God. I thank you for this.
> When did "enemies" also apply to non-Whites? The idea that "enemies" and "neighbors" includes all non-Whites, especially jews, is modern jewish antichrist heresy. It's not unchanged Holy Tradition. That's the single most important point that Orthodox and Catholicism fail to see today and why you've become jewed. You didn't love non-Whites for the last 2000 years. You only started to around 1500s. That's the issue. You are not unchanged Holy Tradition. The Church Fathers would call you all Protestants today with how many niggers, shitskins and jews you let in the Church.
This is just hilarious. Have you even read the Gospel? "There is neither Jew nor Greek"? Have you heard of the apostle Paul? He was a super kike! Read the Gospels!
Have you heard of Moses the Black? Does he sound white? Was that the 1500s? lol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moses_the_Black
You have no idea what the Church Fathers are. You only have a vague notion of what you want them to be.
What is your source on Christianity being white only? I must have missed that part. Read about the apostle Paul if you are going to answer this or I will just repeat this.
> You should probably know your own Church Fathers before embarrassing your self in front of a Protestant...
This whole sentence if so funny. Protestants pick and choose at random, whereas the Orthodox liturgy still follows what is canonized as Orthodox faith from the Church Father Saint Chrysostom.
Tell me about your protestant church service. This looks like my Church service although in a different language, but this will give you a better understanding of what Christs Bride Church liturgy looks like. God oriented. It being in English should help you understand every word. Monks who have literally left it all to follow Christ fully! MY GOD! THE HUMAN-LOVING GOD! Tell me this is a kike loving Church. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyQ5LMqOcaU
> It was this Father who said it. I was sitting on the floor about 10 feet to the right of this photo among everyone else when he said it on the second sermon I visited. It made me feel so disgusted that I almost walked out immediately, but I didn't want to disrespect God despite them disrespecting Him so I waited until coffee hour started. You can refuse the truth all you want, but it's still the truth.
I appreciate that you posted this, I would appreciate if you told me who this Father is. As you are sitting you do understand that the Church service has ended right? This is not part of the liturgy and I have heard of a lot of retarded shit since we are all humans and we all have flaws.
> When and where? God made Adam, Adam was White.
Source?
> Every single modern Orthodox person except about 3 have all repeated the same jewish antichrist heresies that you do.
Which one?
> So if what Jesus promised to Saint Peter is true, that means the promise is being fulfilled by some random Protestant Church right now that's carrying you and the rest of Christianity on its back right now.
Hilarious how a Church created by Peter shall never fall. The Church of Antioch was created before the (Catholic) Church of Rome was created, and the Church of Antioch has not fallen, it's alive and well, I visit it sometimes and I love it. I have taken communion there. Whereas the protestant church was created by Martin Luther in the 1500s. You know about the Orthodox Church, Christs bride, and you reject it, since you want it to be hateful, does that sound like the teachings of Christ?
> Following Jesus means hating non-Whites.
Projecting what you want Christianity to be. I keep repeating this. You do not come to learn about what God wants, you come to fuel your hate. Did you really read the Gospels and find that this is what Jesus was teaching?
>> There should be no isms in Christianity, we are to be Christians first.
>Look at the jew expose himself, lmao. You cannot be Christian if you aren't against things such as satanism, communism, transgenderism, homosexuality, slavery, pornography and pedophilia, just to name a few. If you are against any of those things, then you are in accordance with fascISM, rascISM, antisemitISM and many more isms. If you aren't against all of these things, then you aren't Christian. A Church that claims it is neutral in all things is no Church. Christ was a racist antisemitic ethnofascist. It is blasphemy to claim otherwise.
Hilarious. You just don't read, you have chosen what I stand for. I literally say "There should be no isms in Christianity, we are to be Christians first.", and you say "You cannot be Christian if you aren't against things such as satanism, communism, transgenderism". I literally say there is to be no isms, so why would I be for these isms? How can God's church be for Satanism? All glory to God!
Everything you have mentioned is against God, and I am rightfully against them according to the Orthodox faith. All glory to God!
"Christ was a racist antisemitic ethnofascist." Again, he literally taught that "There is neither Jew nor Greek". Calling Christ a fascist either shows that you do not know what Christ taught, or you don't know what fascism is. The state is the state. We are to be outside of the state, we are to be brothers and sisters in Christ. We are to put Christ above the state. Globalists but for good, unlike kikes who are globalists for evil. I love my brothers and sisters in Christ. We are Gods children.
(Side rant, but is God really against slavery? If that is the role that God has given you, you can still fulfill your duty to God. God taught slaves to be faithful to their masters, as he taught slave owners to be good to their slaves.)
>The jew double speaks, or is he really this retarded? How do you live among non-Whites without race mixing with them? Name one nation in all of history that achieved this, ever. In two generations after you're dead, what is stopping the jew you allowed into your nation to subvert and destroy your ideals that you tried to teach your children into being "bad" while rewriting history to make their ideals "good?" The only reason you see right now that race mixing causes problems for everyone is because you've seen the consequences hundreds of years later AFTER you allowed non-Whites in the Church. You have hindsight and the internet to see through experience. Your children won't have that luxury, and they'll repeat the same mistakes your ancestors did, leading to the world becoming what it is today, which is exactly what it was with Noah when everyone race mixed, and Sodom and Gomorrah when everyone race mixed. You expel all non-Whites or you die in sin. There is no middle ground.
What a block of text you make me read and respond to.
Hospitality is Christian, giving away your daughters, or race mixing has never been taught. How can I live with other races visiting? How about not marrying my children to them? How is this complicated?
I agree that we should throw out the kike, but who is with me? I am all alone in the whole world. Since people like you are cowards, who don't want to focus on the source, even though we have names. I used to talk about this in nationalist circles for decades, but no one ever wanted to follow through with this, not even some Mossad letter agency came to me, to jail me. So I focus on following God instead. They had their chance and now I have become what they hate the most, a true follower of Christ.
> You stopped following Christ's teaching even sooner than Catholicism did the moment you let non-Whites in the Church. You do not follow unchanged Holy Tradition like you claim.
Read about the Great Schism. The Catholic church literally denied the well documented creed of Nicaea to change it. It's hilarious how they pretended that it was always that since it was so well documented. They have nothing to stand on. To me it's not a big deal since it almost sounds like the real thing but if you ever start to change the faith, then you go on a slippery slope as the Catholic church has done, and it's now down to Vatican 1 and 2, the infallible pope, and you see what the 2 most recent popes have done. Imagine telling Jesus that you can bless sodomite couples.
>>You can trace the laying of hands from the apostles on the bishops, to them laying hands on new bishops, all the way to all of our Patriarchs today.
>The same jewed Patriarchs, right?
Name a single jewed Eastern Orthodox Patriarch ever. We still follow the faith. this is so easy.
> Thanks! Hopefully in your prayers, you open your eyes, mind and heart to Christ and see the His message that I've shown you and repent from your jewish ideology and return to His one true Church instead.
Literally denying the modern kike beliefs taught in then Talmud which hates us real Christians. There is nothing the modern kike hates more than the Orthodox Church. This is literally what brought "Jew hating me" to become an Orthodox Christian. My baptism and first communion was the best thing to ever happen to me. All glory to God!
I thank you for making me think and bring up questions to others to help me understand better. My foundation in the Orthodox faith has been greatly improved. All glory to God!
Communion taken, God is with me, and I am with Him. I have never been happier.
God loves YOU! He wants YOU to come back to Him! You are the lost son and he will welcome you back with open arms. Just say yes and he will accept you back in the eleventh hour. He took the greatest sinner ever, ME, back! He will take you too! I love God with all my heart and He is everything for me. My life for Him!
In the name of the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Ghost. I bless you!
Lord Jesus Christ, son of God, have mercy upon me, a sinner.
How many martyrs were "alone" and "cowards"? "*I*" don't want to focus on the source? I'm the one who's educating you on the source, jew.
>and now I have become what they hate the most, a true follower of Christ.
The pacifist that condemns antisemitism, racism and all other "isms" while promoting race mixing and never hating non-Whites. Yes, the jew absolutely hates that the most... retard.
>Read about the Great Schism.
I have. More than you, apparently.
>Imagine telling Jesus that you can bless sodomite couples.
Orthodox have been doing that much longer than Catholics, lmfao.
>Name a single jewed Eastern Orthodox Patriarch ever.
Well that's easy, let's start with the current one: Bartholomew I. A jewed kike that loves race mixing, hates you, hates God and worships the jews.
>There is nothing the modern kike hates more than the Orthodox Church.
No, they love it actually. What they hate is the Truth. Do you have an [ADL page like Christian Identity does](https://www.adl.org/resources/backgrounder/christian-identity)? I didn't think so. Modern Orthodox don't do anything. They just lose and take massive genocides then somehow pretend that means they won.
>Communion taken, God is with me, and I am with Him.
But not with the Orthodox Church clearly, since they'd excommunicate you for being on this board.
>God loves YOU!
I know He does. I'm actually following and serving Him by speaking the Truth. You're not, though.
>Lord Jesus Christ, son of God, have mercy upon me, a sinner.
Better start hating jews and soon, if you want His mercy.
I've literally quoted half the Bible and several of your own Saints, so I think I have a much better understanding of what God wants than you.
>You are not even apart of Christs bride, the Church.
You're the one who follows modern jewish antichrist ideology, not the Church. You gave your bride to be race mixed out of existence.
>How can you never have heard of turning the other cheek?
Let me show you what one of your own jewish Orthodox Fathers has to say on exactly this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5o7uvKUzw0\
How many Ls are you going to take from this Protestant who knows Orthodoxy better than you?
>But I have taken communion today
With the same "Church" that says you're in sin for being a racist Nazi and would excommunicate you if they found out, right? Sounds like a blasphemous communion.
>They are right in that, we are all just humans.
You just said earlier that Saint John Chrysostom was right in hating jews and tried to use that as justifying Orthodoxy... I hate jews like you.
>I believe that your approach got you the answers that suited you.
What you believe doesn't matter. I remained humble and calm until he kept pressing "okay but why do you want to convert" and there was no other way to avoid saying "the jews." If you're not seeing God's Truth now that you know the jew and all of its lies, the you're not a Christian. That's the point.
>You are not trying to learn from the Church, you are not trying to follow God, you have made up what you want God to want, based on what your flesh wants.
No, actually, that's exactly what you're doing. I've already learned so much more of the Truth than Orthodoxy can provide. The flesh wants an easy, comfortable life where all it does is think Orthodoxy is correct and everything they say and do and practice is "Unchanged Holy Tradition" and that's how you get to Heaven and serve God. That someone else already knows all the answers and the jew is just a scary boogy man that isn't real and didn't subvert all of history and Christianity. I'm not falling for that. I'm taking the hard road, the one that denies the easy popular choice because I cannot unsee and unknow the Truth of the jew. I seek Christ, not the jewish synagogue that you call the "Church."
>Nope, we are not to hate anyone. It's not complicated. We leave the judgement to God. Hate the sin, not the sinner.
Psalm 97:10, Obadiah 1:18-21, Malachi 1:2-4, Romans 9:13, Matthew 7:15-20, Matthew 15:24, John 7:24, John 8:39-47, Revelation 2:9, 3:9, 18:23. All of Genesis 6, Enoch, 2 Samuel, 1 Kings, Isaiah and even Jeremiah say you're wrong. "Never hate, love and tolerate everything, hate the sin not the sinner" is actually modern jewish antichrist ideology and you find this mindset much more prevalent in Protestantism than Orthodoxy. LMAO.
>If you are just out to hate Jews, you are not out to follow God, you are just wasting your time and God is not with you. You will not gain Gods righteousness to support you hating Jews.
Literally the opposite. Even Saint John Chrysostom spits in your face at this.
>This is hilarious since we Orthodox are rejecting all the kike changes that has happened to every single other non-Orthodox church in the world. We are unchanged and still follow God, according to how God taught.
Ah yes, race mixing your selves out of existence, worshiping modern jewish antichrist ideology, throwing away unchanged Holy Tradition, and "hiding until the communism passes" while letting millions of your people get genocided by jews. Yes, that's all *clearly* "rejecting all the kike changes" and "unchanged and still follow God, according to how God taught." It's not like Saint John Chrysostom that you quote in almost all of your Liturgies was right or anything...
>You are helping me understand Orthodoxy better and getting closer to God. I thank you for this.
Careful, keep it up and you'll start to be unable to defend Orthodoxy from my questions and thus convert to Protestantism.
>This is just hilarious. Have you even read the Gospel? "There is neither Jew nor Greek"? Have you heard of the apostle Paul? He was a super kike! Read the Gospels!
1. Paul never said the word "jew." He said Ἰουδαῖος which means "Judean," and the context he was referring to were the mainland Israel becoming one giant state called Judea. What he meant in Galatians 3:28 was that just because the tribes of Dan, Levi, Zebulon and Judah left for Europe after Exodus but before Jesus to become the Greeks, Romans, Celts, Norse ect. didn't mean they weren't eligible for salvation. Paul's entire message was to go tell these tribes about Jesus and help them revert from their pagan ways. It never applied to jews or any other non-Whites. A dog born in a stable isn't a horse, a nigger born in Europe isn't a European, a White born in China isn't a Chinese, therefore a jew born in Judea is not a Judean.
2. Paul was an Israelite of Benjamin, not a jew. Also it's really funny when you ask if I read the Gospels, yet you also say "leave judgement to God' when Jesus literally tells us to "judge righteous judgment" in John 7:24.
>Have you heard of Moses the Black? Does he sound white? Was that the 1500s? lol
moses the black is one of the examples of why Orthodoxy fell to the jewish gates of hell even before Catholicism did. He never existed. He's a retcon of history that jews rewrote in to make it seem like he was always there. "Jews lie about the holocaust and everything else, but they would NEVER lie about this! Trust me, goy!"
>You have no idea what the Church Fathers are. You only have a vague notion of what you want them to be.
I mean I'm the one quoting them to you as you fail every single basic principle of Orthodox faith...
>What is your source on Christianity being white only? I must have missed that part. Read about the apostle Paul if you are going to answer this or I will just repeat this.
Let's see: Matthew 15:24 sums it up instantly. But again, just look at history. All of Northern Africa and the Middle East was White before we left it for Europe and America. All of Europe and America was 100% White and Christian for 1500 years, except for the jews who we kept expelling for thousands of times for their infinite evils. Whites are the only race in the world that naturally follow Christianity without anyone else having to bribe or force them to, every other race reverts back to their natural pagan ways after about 2 generations without our influence. Before you say "Ethiopians were the first Christians," realize that Ethiopia is literally ancient Greek for "White, sun burnt face" and the niggers moved in after we left. They were never original or first, and they only became and remain "Christian" because we force them to.\
As for Paul, I already explained what, five times now? He's White. Not jewish. And he went only to Whites to preach his message. He did try going to Asians twice, but both times God stopped him, first by making him really sick then again by literally crashing his boat.
>This whole sentence if so funny. Protestants pick and choose at random, whereas the Orthodox liturgy still follows what is canonized as Orthodox faith from the Church Father Saint Chrysostom.
Is that why your entire "Church" is brown and takes constant Ls from jews with no resistance? You've lost literally everything in history yet pretend somehow you've won? Again, if I went to your Father and told him you were on this board and believed in Nazism, you'd be excommunicated immediately.
>Tell me this is a kike loving Church.
It's a kike loving Church because it loves kikes and race mixes with them and excommunicates anyone who agrees with Hitler or denies the holocaust. What if I told you can do all of these exact same things in Protestantism, just without non-Whites and kike loving? Liturgy and Communion and praying to Saints and venerating your self to icons and observing fasts and feasts don't make you Orthodox, all of this can and is done in Protestantism too. What makes you Orthodox is believing non-Whites can be saved and race mixing with them while believing the holocaust. That's the difference.
>I would appreciate if you told me who this Father is.
Archpriest Mark Tyson.
>As you are sitting you do understand that the Church service has ended right?
No. In both the OCA and the ROCOR here, the Father comes out to talk to us in a sermon before resuming the rest of the Liturgy. We're allowed to sit during the sermons.
>Source?
Are you really asking for a source that Adam was White and not some nigger? In any case, https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ifeR97f3ZVQ
>Which one?
"*We're not ACTUALLY antisemitic, we're not ACTUALLY against race mixing, we don't ACTUALLY want White ethnostates, we don't ACTUALLY hate jews."
>Hilarious how a Church created by Peter shall never fall. The Church of Antioch was created before the (Catholic) Church of Rome was created, and the Church of Antioch has not fallen, it's alive and well, I visit it sometimes and I love it. I have taken communion there. Whereas the protestant church was created by Martin Luther in the 1500s. You know about the Orthodox Church, Christs bride, and you reject it, since you want it to be hateful, does that sound like the teachings of Christ?
Well the current Orthodox and Catholic Church obviously isn't the same Church as what Saint Peter made, because they both fell to the jewish gates of hell a long time ago, which means some random Protestant that's ACTUALLY following unchanged Holy Tradition is fulfilling this promise right now and carrying the entire Church on its back. You know, like Christian Identity. I don't reject Christ's bride, I protect her from evil jewish subverters like you that want to race mix her out of existence. And yes, I want to be hateful, otherwise I couldn't love and follow the teachings of Christ just as Psalm 97:10 states.
>Projecting what you want Christianity to be. I keep repeating this. You do not come to learn about what God wants, you come to fuel your hate. Did you really read the Gospels and find that this is what Jesus was teaching?
*Have you?*
>"* But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.*" - Matthew 15:24
"*Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.*." - John 7:24
"*39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham.
40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.
41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.
42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.
46 Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?
47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.*" - John 8:39-47
"* I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.*" - Revelation 2:9
"*Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.*" - Revelation 3:9
"*And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries* [BIG PHARMA] *were all nations deceived.*" - Revelation 18:23
>How can God's church be for Satanism?
It's not, you and Orthodoxy are. That's why you double speak and hate God, then refuse to learn and repent from your sins when they are rebuked.
>and I am rightfully against them according to the Orthodox faith.
See your double speak? "I reject all isms" and then "I am rightfully against them." Jew.
>Again, he literally taught that "There is neither Jew nor Greek"
No, Paul said that, not Jesus, and again Paul never said "jew." The very word "jew" is a modern mistranslation. It didn't exist back then. You claim Orthodox wrote the Bible, right? You should know it better than I do, faggot.
>Calling Christ a fascist either shows that you do not know what Christ taught, or you don't know what fascism is.
Let's look at the definition of fascism straight from the creator's mouth:
>"*Fascism means first of all defending your nation against the dangers that threaten it. It means the destruction of these dangers and the opening of a free way to life and glory for your nation.*" - Corneliu Zelea Codreanu, Romanian founder of The Legion of the Archangel Michael 1923
Yeah if you don't think Christ was fascist then you clearly don't know what fascism is... but that makes sense because you don't even know what Orthodoxy is. By the way, didn't you say earlier you were an ethnonationalist? LMFAO.
>Globalists but for good
Race mixing is never good, jew.
>(Side rant, but is God really against slavery? If that is the role that God has given you, you can still fulfill your duty to God. God taught slaves to be faithful to their masters, as he taught slave owners to be good to their slaves.)
Maximum jewish subversion alert. God did call for the Israelites to temporarily enslave the niggers after conquering them because they were out of resources and if they spent those resources just killing the rest of the niggers, they would've all died too. But it was never a permanent venture. Also, what you're referring to is SERVITUDE. A SERVANT is not a SLAVE. Fucking kike.
>How can I live with other races visiting? How about not marrying my children to them? How is this complicated?
How do you plan to kick out all non-Whites without hating and killing them? How do you justify monoethnic White nations and every nation living among their own people without hating them? You can't. How many times do I have to say this? Wanting to live among Whites only MEANS, BY DEFINITION, THAT YOU HATE NON-WHITES. IF YOU DO NOT HATE NON-WHITES, THEN YOU ARE FINE WITH LIVING AMONG THEM AND RACE MIXING WITH THEM. IF YOU ARE NOT FINE WITH LIVING WITH THEM OR RACE MIXING WITH THEM, THEN YOU HATE THEM. It's that simple.
>I am all alone in the whole world. Since people like you are cowards, who don't want to focus on the source, even though we have names.
Continuing--