20 days ago13 points(+0/-0/+13Score on mirror)2 children
"The Ring is Evil! Like it's literally the embodiment of capital E Evil! The entire point is that if you permit a little bit of evil, it'll grow and fester and rot everything you tried to build with it."
"Sauron is the Ring. And they are both Evil. Submission to the Ring is submission to Sauron and submission to Sauron is submission to Evil.
The entire point is that there's no such thing as a little bit of evil. If you even allow a little bit of it, it'll spread like wildfire."
"Because it's a part of a demon's soul that infests and possesses mortals. It is NOT the same thing as pure neutral power"
20 days ago12 points(+0/-0/+12Score on mirror)2 children
It was not a metaphor for power, it was a tool of control for sauron, but everyone was told it gave you power. Kinda like how the federal reserve is supposed to give us a monetary system, but it is just a tool of control for the Rothschild banks.
20 days ago1 point(+0/-0/+1Score on mirror)3 children
I think Tolkien wrote that's what he was implying with the rings. The whole story was a metaphor for him and his friends going to world War 1, the wizards being the kikes, the orcs being the Germans and him and his friend were the hobbit. The men were the European politicians.
>The whole story was a metaphor for him and his friends going to world War 1, the wizards being the kikes, the orcs being the Germans and him and his friend were the hobbit
I think he actually denied it had anything to do with either world war
>The Ring of Gyges /ˈdʒaɪˌdʒiːz/ (Ancient Greek: Γύγου Δακτύλιος, Gúgou Daktúlios, Attic Greek pronunciation: [ˈɡyːˌɡoː dakˈtylios]) is a hypothetical magic ring mentioned by the philosopher Plato in Book 2 of his Republic (2:359a–2:360d).[1] It grants its owner the power to become invisible at will. Using the ring as an example, this section of the Republic considers whether a rational, intelligent person who has no need to fear negative consequences for committing an injustice would nevertheless act justly.
It was a tool of control for sauron but also just a tool of corrupting evil in general, making anyone that wielded it akin to sauron. Whether or not sauron is actually there or not. At least for the powerful characters in the series. The weaker ones are simply driven to madness in the absence of a physical sauron to control them to give the ring back (gollum)
If a powerful person like gandalf or saruman took the ring, they could and most likely would destroy sauron... but they would also, effectively, *become* sauron once again (and saruman more or less did just from meer obsession with the ring). Which is why gandalf never took the ring. Gandalf and saruman are already effectively siblings of sauron, they are near peers though sauron has more power. With the ring, which itself contains half of saurons power inside of it, either one of them could remove the will of sauron from it, but the corrupting evil is always there, always present. It will turn them evil, too, even with no sauron and none of saurons will inside of the ring.
Evil in lord of the rings is beyond sauron, sauron did not create evil nor was he born evil. Sauron is under the corrupting influence of morgoth, who is lotr's Satan, but actually yields more power overall than the real life Satan. Morgoth is far more powerful than any other character in the series besides Eru (God in lord of the rings). The will of sauron is in the ring, but can be muted by a being like gandalf that would become more powerful than him because they wield the ring. *Evil*, however, is from morgoth. And morgoth and his will are far more powerful than gandalf, sauron, or anyone else. If the ring is forged with evil, it's forged with morgoth, and nobody in the series has the power to remove morgoth from an object.
So, for those with great willpower and power, it is a corrupting thing that turns them into another sauron even if they use it to overthrow sauron. For those without great willpower, it turns them insane. It is fully evil, but it's beyond just a means of saurons control. The ring has the mind of sauron but its essence is of morgoth and the essence of it is all-corrupting to everything around it (except Tom bombadil, but I won't count him because Tolkien explains absolutely nothing whatsoever about what bombadil actually is)
The were literally called The Rings of Power. In some errant epiphany, you are trying to force one of the related aspects of them as the primary concept.
"Sauron is the Ring. And they are both Evil. Submission to the Ring is submission to Sauron and submission to Sauron is submission to Evil.
The entire point is that there's no such thing as a little bit of evil. If you even allow a little bit of it, it'll spread like wildfire."
"Because it's a part of a demon's soul that infests and possesses mortals. It is NOT the same thing as pure neutral power"
https://xcancel.com/HariSel57511397/status/1960116153877139876
And then he gives up to die...
But Gandalf the White (Jesus) swoops in and saves him.
Greta Thunberg aka Gollum.