If your advice is to stay off it, save it, no shit bub.
I get a decent amount of matches but I keep having a problem where I get maybe 5 messages into a conversation and the woman ghosts.
I start off asking how things are going then try to start conversation based on her bio. This seems to go nowhere.
What am I doing wrong? Am I supposed to call them cute immediately and begin the conversation with that?
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>I started online dating in like 2008. I did it off and on for close to a decade. When I say conversation I just mean that there was at least a response back. I get what you're saying about conversation but you're being a little autistically semantic. Before tinder dating sites were a little more serious.
I caught the tail end of the dating sites that weren't based on the tinder model and it was the same shit as it is now, women refusing to interact, the only difference is instead of spending 2 minutes per night maxing out my swipes I would mass send opening messages but that didnt prevent me from being filtered by looks
>Women in real life do technically have the same options if they are online dating. The difference is that when they are online they are only starting conversations with men that they find physically attractive. They will choose to meet the most physically attractive man that is talking to them. It really doesn't matter what he says. And if they aren't completely ugly they usually have hundreds on men messaging them, if not thousands. That means that if you are not a top 5% looking guy or aren't clearly wealthy you're going to have a hard time meeting women from the internet.
basically the same as IRL, that isnt a difference.. You're pointing out a problem with female autonomy, not dating sites.
>When you meet women in real life it allows you to establish some kind of relationship. They still have to be attracted to you but knowing you gives them more to consider than just looks.
Looks are the lens through which all actions and words are judged through and personality is created through past experience. If women start with a negative first impression of me, view everything I do or say as weird and cringe due to my looks, and I have had an incredibly reserved, low energy and depressing personality beaten into me how exactly is any of that going to benefit me?
>There are women that don't use the apps
Because they have effectively endless options anyway.
>All women do care about more than just looks it's just that the apps create a situation where the only thing that can be known about the other person is how they look.
As I said earlier looks are a determining factor for how everything else is judged.
>They also create this unnatural situation where all of the women have a near infinite dating pool and the whole thing is done privately. For all of human history the dating pool was who you knew in real life and if something was going on between people their community knew about it. Everyone had a reputation and it would follow them. Now everyone is a stranger and every relationship can take place in secret and women are getting pumped and dumped by Chad ad nauseum
That doesn't matter when we live in a society where every woman can be assumed to be a slut anyway and most of them openly talk about the chad's they've fucked and sucked recently.
>Most women probably do not clearly understand this but at least some of them can identify that they do not like the way online dating works, that it does not give them what they actually want which is a good man.
Their idea of a "good man" is insane and their top priority is still looks, it's not online dating that's the problem, the core of the issue is female freedom and the evil society destroying idea that is romance.
>I know it is hard. Having an actual social life is more and more difficult the way people are these days. But that's the best way to meet women.
I can count the number of eligible women I've met through my social life on one hand, I'm not even averaging one meeting per year and many of them I never even ended up seeing again after the first introduction. If that's as good as it gets then I'm certain to die a virgin.
You're very black pilled. I can't blame you. I do think your view is skewed. You're right about a lot of stuff. "Gender equality" has completely fucked things up. I've delved deep into manosphere stuff and we're on the same page. I think immersing yourself into that kind of content can give you the impression that all women are like that. To some degree the majority of them are under the influence of the ideas that create women like that but they aren't all that far gone.
I could get really detailed but there's way too many variables for me to deal with in a comment. I don't know what you look like. I don't know where you live. I don't know your age. I don't know your career or your interests. Depending on all of those things you could be totally hopeless or you could be an easy fix. What I do know for sure is that your negative attitude is going to make any of those situations worse than it is. If you're a fat ugly blob loser whose main interests are video games and hating people over the internet and you refuse to change than you'd be better off embracing it and just resolving to see a pro sometimes. Maybe you're not a piece of shit but you're unwilling to compromise on your standards... Then you'll probably be better off just stepping out of the game. If you're not hopeless and you do want in... You're probably going to have to settle on one thing or another. Life isn't fair. You're not entitled to anything. They're are plenty of fat or ugly women that aren't insufferable dumb whores because the dating market and their own sense of self worth didn't allow for it. I assure you all pussy feels the same and everyone looks the same in the dark.
Maybe things will change over time. Maybe they won't. Maybe it'll take too long for it to matter for you. Bitching about it will only make you feel worse.
I caught the tail end of the dating sites that weren't based on the tinder model and it was the same shit as it is now, women refusing to interact, the only difference is instead of spending 2 minutes per night maxing out my swipes I would mass send opening messages but that didnt prevent me from being filtered by looks
>Women in real life do technically have the same options if they are online dating. The difference is that when they are online they are only starting conversations with men that they find physically attractive. They will choose to meet the most physically attractive man that is talking to them. It really doesn't matter what he says. And if they aren't completely ugly they usually have hundreds on men messaging them, if not thousands. That means that if you are not a top 5% looking guy or aren't clearly wealthy you're going to have a hard time meeting women from the internet.
basically the same as IRL, that isnt a difference.. You're pointing out a problem with female autonomy, not dating sites.
>When you meet women in real life it allows you to establish some kind of relationship. They still have to be attracted to you but knowing you gives them more to consider than just looks.
Looks are the lens through which all actions and words are judged through and personality is created through past experience. If women start with a negative first impression of me, view everything I do or say as weird and cringe due to my looks, and I have had an incredibly reserved, low energy and depressing personality beaten into me how exactly is any of that going to benefit me?
>There are women that don't use the apps
Because they have effectively endless options anyway.
>All women do care about more than just looks it's just that the apps create a situation where the only thing that can be known about the other person is how they look.
As I said earlier looks are a determining factor for how everything else is judged.
>They also create this unnatural situation where all of the women have a near infinite dating pool and the whole thing is done privately. For all of human history the dating pool was who you knew in real life and if something was going on between people their community knew about it. Everyone had a reputation and it would follow them. Now everyone is a stranger and every relationship can take place in secret and women are getting pumped and dumped by Chad ad nauseum
That doesn't matter when we live in a society where every woman can be assumed to be a slut anyway and most of them openly talk about the chad's they've fucked and sucked recently.
>Most women probably do not clearly understand this but at least some of them can identify that they do not like the way online dating works, that it does not give them what they actually want which is a good man.
Their idea of a "good man" is insane and their top priority is still looks, it's not online dating that's the problem, the core of the issue is female freedom and the evil society destroying idea that is romance.
>I know it is hard. Having an actual social life is more and more difficult the way people are these days. But that's the best way to meet women.
I can count the number of eligible women I've met through my social life on one hand, I'm not even averaging one meeting per year and many of them I never even ended up seeing again after the first introduction. If that's as good as it gets then I'm certain to die a virgin.
I could get really detailed but there's way too many variables for me to deal with in a comment. I don't know what you look like. I don't know where you live. I don't know your age. I don't know your career or your interests. Depending on all of those things you could be totally hopeless or you could be an easy fix. What I do know for sure is that your negative attitude is going to make any of those situations worse than it is. If you're a fat ugly blob loser whose main interests are video games and hating people over the internet and you refuse to change than you'd be better off embracing it and just resolving to see a pro sometimes. Maybe you're not a piece of shit but you're unwilling to compromise on your standards... Then you'll probably be better off just stepping out of the game. If you're not hopeless and you do want in... You're probably going to have to settle on one thing or another. Life isn't fair. You're not entitled to anything. They're are plenty of fat or ugly women that aren't insufferable dumb whores because the dating market and their own sense of self worth didn't allow for it. I assure you all pussy feels the same and everyone looks the same in the dark.
Maybe things will change over time. Maybe they won't. Maybe it'll take too long for it to matter for you. Bitching about it will only make you feel worse.