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I’ve had this exact discussion with some frens at the round table. I’ve also brought up how we constantly save them with medical technology, and resources, especially our advancements in GSWs, only for them to commit more crime, and violence while costing us more money. There are so many easy ways we can nonviolently/passively let them destroy themselves, but we don’t. This is also while morally I’m against abortions, pragmatically I understand why they should be as easy as possible to attain.