1 year ago2 points(+0/-0/+2Score on mirror)1 child
I think the US should be balkanized even if 100% of everyone in it were white.
Each region of the US was founded by very different groups of europeans, who had different lifestyles and interests, and those regions were settled and governed in favor of their lifestyles and interests.
The culture clash has created problems before (the civil war, most obviously) and it creates problems now. The pacific coast might as well be a different country from the southeast, which may as well be a different country from the north, which may as well be a different country from the Midwest.
And all of these groups of people have, historically, fucking hated each other and are largely only artificially friendly right now. That's the big thing, we haven't liked each other historically. We don't like each other now, but we're less likely to shoot at people because of it than we used to be. Anti immigration people in the south have almost the same reaction to someone from a different part of the country moving there as they would a fucking Somali. We don't like each other.
If austria and Germany get to be separate countries, then so can the southeast and the northeast. Or whatever else. The federalism of the US has destroyed the individual cultures of it through cross contamination between states which have very different European cultures living in them. Maybe this wasn't feasible before railroads and later highways, but it's the reality now.
1 year ago2 points(+0/-0/+2Score on mirror)1 child
>get to be
Are you purposely ignoring that tens of millions of them were murdered and they’ve been militarily occupied for 80 years because jews were terrified of them getting together and becoming stronger? Yet here you are, trying to get whites to separate again. Hmm.
>Are you purposely ignoring that tens of millions of them were murdered and they’ve been militarily occupied for 80 years because jews were terrified of them getting together and becoming stronger
No, you are aware that they weren't part of Germany for 80 years before anschluss right? And that THAT wasn't forced upon them, they chose it. However, they also chose anschluss.
Besides, my point isn't austria. My example of austria in particular was an absurdity on purpose and no I don't really believe they should be separate because they chose anschluss, but if they didnt, then that would be reasonable. Maybe Belarus or something would have been a better example, I don't know. My point is that there's less dissimilar people who are dissimilar enough to have separate states.
>Yet here you are, trying to get whites to separate again
Yep. I don't want my people (southerners) to be absorbed into an amalgamous mishmash of cultures with every other group of Americans. And I don't want that for other groups of Americans either.
I'm the first one to go against infighting whites. I've talked about this many times on this forum. However, that being said, I don't believe in federalizing and bringing together very different communities of whites. Even if it can work it more often than not turns them into a gray blob of cultures. Which is what has already happened in america, and this arguably happened before the hart cellar act was even codified.
Maybe rather than fully balkanizing the US could be a confederation. Or do what the EU does (minus the jew shit). But the multicultural shit nukes cultures, even if all those cultures are ostensibly white.
But you’re purposely ignoring it, since you claim they WANT to be apart, and they don’t.
>you are aware that they weren't part of Germany for 80 years before anschluss right?
Well, quite a bit longer than that.
>Yep. I don't want my people (southerners) to be absorbed into an amalgamous mishmash of cultures with every other group of Americans.
But you’ve been part of the US for 250 years and you still have your own culture anyway. So it literally doesn't matter.
>Even if it can work it more often than not turns them into a gray blob of cultures. Which is what has already happened in america
We have massively distinct regional characteristics…
>Maybe rather than fully balkanizing the US could be a confederation.
Or maybe we could remain the US as written and expand to encompass the entire Anglosphere, because that’s still going to maintain cultural distinctiveness.
>But the multicultural shit nukes cultures, even if all those cultures are ostensibly white.
The US has only *developed* cultures. The only purpose of the EU is to destroy them. They create propaganda media where their interview chyrons call people “European-[actual demonym]” because turning them into their own “African-Americans” will destroy ideological independence.
>But you’re purposely ignoring it, since you claim they WANT to be apart, and they don’t.
I just said that I was in favor of anschluss, austria was in favor of anschluss, and it was split apart artificially. We agree. The only thing I said was that they chose to be a separate nation (in alliance with Hungary) after the German confederation ceased to exist. And that if they for some reason or another did not want to be incorporated into Germany, then they would be within their rights to be separate.
>But you’ve been part of the US for 250 years
We didn't ask to be so.
>you still have your own culture anyway
May as well have been dead since reconstruction. Civil rights also did a number. But apart from political reasons, everyone across (and outside of) the country moving to the south is what is currently dealing the killing blow. Lynyrd Skynyrd, food, and a watered down version of an accent that we used to have dozens of different variations of is about the extent of southern culture today.
>We have massively distinct regional characteristics…
That are becoming less and less distinct. 150 years ago you couldn't even tell that certain people from certain parts of the country were even speaking English because their dialect was so different. We also used to have people who spoke German, and (more) people who spoke French. We used to have more, and more distinct, accents. We used to have regions with differing fashions (both formal and standard). We used to have regions with differing architecture. This isn't a thing anymore.
>Or maybe we could remain the US as written and expand to encompass the entire Anglosphere
Nobody else in the anglosphere wants to be a part of the US besides (maybe) through us leading the commonwealth rather than the UK.
>The US has only developed cultures
No. It developed cultures back when you had communities of people from Europe who were isolated in certain regions. Which, of course, leads to those regions being very different from other regions. This isn't a thing anymore, this doesn't happen anymore. Not since railroads were built.
>The only purpose of the EU is to destroy them. They create propaganda media where their interview chyrons call people “European-[actual demonym]” because turning them into their own “African-Americans” will destroy ideological independence.
You are 100% correct. My point being: The *concept of* the EU is not a bad one. I specifically said the EU "without the jew shit". A Europe on good terms with each other and united politically with a cross country currency, but while maintaining their own borders, ethnicities, governments, armies, etc, is a *good idea*. The issue is that jews control it and use this good idea to destroy Europe.
>run, like you’ve run for 15,000 years, abandoning homeland after homeland to be razed to the ground by browns
>give up EVERYTHING yet again
>because there’s nowhere else to run to now
No.
Each region of the US was founded by very different groups of europeans, who had different lifestyles and interests, and those regions were settled and governed in favor of their lifestyles and interests.
The culture clash has created problems before (the civil war, most obviously) and it creates problems now. The pacific coast might as well be a different country from the southeast, which may as well be a different country from the north, which may as well be a different country from the Midwest.
And all of these groups of people have, historically, fucking hated each other and are largely only artificially friendly right now. That's the big thing, we haven't liked each other historically. We don't like each other now, but we're less likely to shoot at people because of it than we used to be. Anti immigration people in the south have almost the same reaction to someone from a different part of the country moving there as they would a fucking Somali. We don't like each other.
If austria and Germany get to be separate countries, then so can the southeast and the northeast. Or whatever else. The federalism of the US has destroyed the individual cultures of it through cross contamination between states which have very different European cultures living in them. Maybe this wasn't feasible before railroads and later highways, but it's the reality now.
Are you purposely ignoring that tens of millions of them were murdered and they’ve been militarily occupied for 80 years because jews were terrified of them getting together and becoming stronger? Yet here you are, trying to get whites to separate again. Hmm.
No, you are aware that they weren't part of Germany for 80 years before anschluss right? And that THAT wasn't forced upon them, they chose it. However, they also chose anschluss.
Besides, my point isn't austria. My example of austria in particular was an absurdity on purpose and no I don't really believe they should be separate because they chose anschluss, but if they didnt, then that would be reasonable. Maybe Belarus or something would have been a better example, I don't know. My point is that there's less dissimilar people who are dissimilar enough to have separate states.
>Yet here you are, trying to get whites to separate again
Yep. I don't want my people (southerners) to be absorbed into an amalgamous mishmash of cultures with every other group of Americans. And I don't want that for other groups of Americans either.
I'm the first one to go against infighting whites. I've talked about this many times on this forum. However, that being said, I don't believe in federalizing and bringing together very different communities of whites. Even if it can work it more often than not turns them into a gray blob of cultures. Which is what has already happened in america, and this arguably happened before the hart cellar act was even codified.
Maybe rather than fully balkanizing the US could be a confederation. Or do what the EU does (minus the jew shit). But the multicultural shit nukes cultures, even if all those cultures are ostensibly white.
But you’re purposely ignoring it, since you claim they WANT to be apart, and they don’t.
>you are aware that they weren't part of Germany for 80 years before anschluss right?
Well, quite a bit longer than that.
>Yep. I don't want my people (southerners) to be absorbed into an amalgamous mishmash of cultures with every other group of Americans.
But you’ve been part of the US for 250 years and you still have your own culture anyway. So it literally doesn't matter.
>Even if it can work it more often than not turns them into a gray blob of cultures. Which is what has already happened in america
We have massively distinct regional characteristics…
>Maybe rather than fully balkanizing the US could be a confederation.
Or maybe we could remain the US as written and expand to encompass the entire Anglosphere, because that’s still going to maintain cultural distinctiveness.
>But the multicultural shit nukes cultures, even if all those cultures are ostensibly white.
The US has only *developed* cultures. The only purpose of the EU is to destroy them. They create propaganda media where their interview chyrons call people “European-[actual demonym]” because turning them into their own “African-Americans” will destroy ideological independence.
I just said that I was in favor of anschluss, austria was in favor of anschluss, and it was split apart artificially. We agree. The only thing I said was that they chose to be a separate nation (in alliance with Hungary) after the German confederation ceased to exist. And that if they for some reason or another did not want to be incorporated into Germany, then they would be within their rights to be separate.
>But you’ve been part of the US for 250 years
We didn't ask to be so.
>you still have your own culture anyway
May as well have been dead since reconstruction. Civil rights also did a number. But apart from political reasons, everyone across (and outside of) the country moving to the south is what is currently dealing the killing blow. Lynyrd Skynyrd, food, and a watered down version of an accent that we used to have dozens of different variations of is about the extent of southern culture today.
>We have massively distinct regional characteristics…
That are becoming less and less distinct. 150 years ago you couldn't even tell that certain people from certain parts of the country were even speaking English because their dialect was so different. We also used to have people who spoke German, and (more) people who spoke French. We used to have more, and more distinct, accents. We used to have regions with differing fashions (both formal and standard). We used to have regions with differing architecture. This isn't a thing anymore.
>Or maybe we could remain the US as written and expand to encompass the entire Anglosphere
Nobody else in the anglosphere wants to be a part of the US besides (maybe) through us leading the commonwealth rather than the UK.
>The US has only developed cultures
No. It developed cultures back when you had communities of people from Europe who were isolated in certain regions. Which, of course, leads to those regions being very different from other regions. This isn't a thing anymore, this doesn't happen anymore. Not since railroads were built.
>The only purpose of the EU is to destroy them. They create propaganda media where their interview chyrons call people “European-[actual demonym]” because turning them into their own “African-Americans” will destroy ideological independence.
You are 100% correct. My point being: The *concept of* the EU is not a bad one. I specifically said the EU "without the jew shit". A Europe on good terms with each other and united politically with a cross country currency, but while maintaining their own borders, ethnicities, governments, armies, etc, is a *good idea*. The issue is that jews control it and use this good idea to destroy Europe.