The enemy own words may help you gain insight on the matter.
https://communities.win/c/ConsumeProduct/p/19AxGfwbPG/yenta-kvetches-about-things-that/c
There's a distrust toward the soyence. If it is not clear to them, it might be useful to point out how.
Well-informed, clear thought and logic should give you an edge.
While new age stuff often dwell in the ridiculous and the Alex Jones pitfall, the truth is also out there. Don't try to gaslight yourself with "rational explanations" if you've really witnessed it.
i've always been opposed to new age bullshit