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> Let us pray also for the perfidious Jews: that our God and Lord would remove the veil from their hearts: that they also may acknowledge our Lord Jesus Christ.

> Almighty and everlasting God, who drivest not away from Thy mercy even the perfidious Jews: hear our prayers, which we offer for the blindness of that people: that, acknowledging the light of Thy truth, which is Christ, they may be rescued from their darkness.

> Through the same Jesus Christ, thy Son, Our Lord, Who liveth and reigneth with thee in the unity of the Holy Ghost, God, world without end.

> R. Amen.

This prayer has been suppressed by the Vatican 2 church as far as I'm aware; the word "perfidious" means: "Guilty of perfidy; violating good faith or vows; false to trust or confidence reposed; treacherous; faithless".

Hence it would seem to be a modern error to consider the Jewish people as "faithful", from a traditional Christian perspective? Yet naturally no excessive and additional conflict should be intended beyond that which exists by nature of the continued rejection of Jesus as Messiah.
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TallestSkil on scored.co
1 year ago 7 points (+0 / -0 / +7Score on mirror ) 1 child
Vatican II absolved the jews of the murder of Christ, so I don’t take seriously a single word said by any papist since that date. And mostly before.
TakenusernameA on scored.co
1 year ago 7 points (+0 / -0 / +7Score on mirror ) 1 child
>Vatican II absolved the jews of the murder of Christ

Which they had no right to do, mainly because the Jews have literally been dead for a millenia, but unfortunately we tolerated heresy for so long until it entered the Vatican itself. The lesson of Vatican II is that tolerance of evil is the second worst evil, the first is *COMPROMISE*, which is exactly what V2 and everything since has been. The Bishops are too afraid of the fake jews and their worldly power that they have utterly forgotten fear of God, and God will soon bring them to account by reminding them *why* He should be feared.
bluewhiteandred on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
We could get in to a few different tangents here,

one I was wondering about is if we are actually in the end times because support for some of these heresies seems to be collapsing in the next generations (in favor of embracing an exclusive "Christian" view of some sort or rejecting religion entirely), so does that mean Jewish anti-Christs might be making some last ditch effort to stand against either Christianity or the non-Christians who oppose Judaism?

another kind of tangent is I was wondering if any of our resident "autists" have compiled a bunch of news stories showing the statements of the current Vatican and related "authorities" on these kinds of topics, for example I see a bunch of stories like this (these are articles from "NovusOrdoWatch" which is sede):

"‘Archbishop’ of Sydney: To Say the Jews Are No Longer God’s Chosen People is HERESY!"

"Bergoglio-Francis: Jews Still God’s Chosen People"

"‘Cardinal’ Dolan: Christ’s New Covenant Exists Side-By-Side with Jewish Old Covenant!"
TakenusernameA on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
>one I was wondering about is if we are actually in the end times

Weve been in them since Christ rose from the dead. The collapse of Modernism and its last gasps in the Vatican is more likely a sign we are entering a new age of Christian revival, possibly in the midst of everyone else getting more wicked. I think we will see a return to Tradition in the Catholic Church and possibly a mending of the eastern schism in the near future, but in the secular space, things will get more explicitly hostile to Christianity, and Protestantism will continue to fraction along the lines of Judaised mainstream evangelicalism while the more liberal sects abandon the pretense of Christianity altogether, and the minority of Protestants who actually have any understanding of Christianity will simply rejoin the Church.
bluewhiteandred on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
well, this comment exchange came before the news of Francis dying... but I may have posted before elsewhere that I do think we are possibly at the end of the age of Vatican 2's confusion, which is now something like 60 years old.

Sedevacantism if true really seems to have gone on too long and would seemingly be near an end almost of necessity. Wasn't the Babylonian captivity 70 years? There are questions of legitimacy of orders that would become even more serious of sedevacantism's true and we keep going without a pope (the last of the known Pius XII bishops died out a couple years ago).

So we are either set up for the end times, with the Vatican being stacked with Francis-appointed "cardinals", or for things to crash and then rebound back to some kind of "normality" more like there was in 1958 (I guess I could see it go either way).

I have wondered if in the end times, the modernist liberals might be polarized to come together out of the belief they push that "everyone is part of one religious one family", which in turn would push "conservative Christians" to all work out their differences and to come under the pope (orthodox, protestants), for one last united stand of Christians versus non-Christians. That was just a personal speculation though.
TakenusernameA on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
>So we are either set up for the end times, with the Vatican being stacked with Francis-appointed "cardinals"

Ironically, most of those are from developing nations, so stacking the Cardinals with them might blow up in the face of Modernism. Such nations may tend toward the economic socialism favored by the modernists, but they also tend to be staunch Nationalist and also tend to look unfavorably toward the religious pluralism that underlies modernism. Its best to pray for them so they make the right decision when selecting the next Pope, because God will give us a good Pope if we pray for one (and obviously if the majority of Catholics get their lives in order and stop being worldly)
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Hoobeejoo on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
>None of them to sincere converts and still think of them as kike first, Christian second ( and they probably don’t still consider themselves Christians)

Yes. If their conversion is sincere, God will accept them and their SOUL will go to Heaven. The BODY, however, still needs to go in the oven.
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