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DeplorableGerman on scored.co
6 days ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 3 children
that makes two of us.

what i meant to ask is - is there any basis for spiders living in cold or arctic climes. because i don't relate spiders to the cold, hence why "frost spiders" which, in game terms, deal "frost damage", don't make any sense to me. because in temperate climes, spiders tend to hibernate or seek shelter during cold season.
devotech2 on scored.co
6 days ago 4 points (+0 / -0 / +4Score on mirror ) 1 child
Like every other fantasy trope, blame the lord of the rings. Specifically shelob, the giant spider that lives in a cold dungeon and eats people
DeplorableGerman on scored.co
6 days ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
so just another case of lazy fiction writers being lazy. womp womp.
devotech2 on scored.co
6 days ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
Not necessarily. I like lord of the rings tropes. If they have enough original shit (the elder scrolls definitely DOES) then I'd 100% forgive the writers throwing in some homages to the granddaddy of all high fantasy.
DeplorableGerman on scored.co
6 days ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
i don't dislike Tolkien's work, i just wish folks would come up with their own completely unique works more often. then again it's hard to create a completely unique fictional setting without any outside inspiration or influence (not even TES does this).

oh well, frosty spooders it is.
devotech2 on scored.co
6 days ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
It's incredibly difficult to do

Tolkien *invented* western fantasy.

Everything that you or I or anyone else associate with fantasy comes from Tolkien. Or from earlier source material, which is almost always linked to Tolkien anyways.

How far away from Tolkien can you get before it isn't fantasy anymore? Either it won't be western fantasy anymore, it'll be eastern fantasy, or it will be something that isn't fantasy at all. If you remove the magic, it's a medieval drama. If you make it about technology instead of magic, it's science fiction. Etc.

TES 3 morrowind is probably the furthest work of western fantasy from lotr that exists. Or actual slop like Harry Potter, which shares very little with Tolkien but suffers from it and is vapid.

On another note, the lore for the elder scrolls is actually incredibly diverged from Tolkien. The influence is there, it isn't *completely* original of course, but it's very unique in its own right.

Finding fantasy without Tolkien is like trying to find a dystopian novel without Orwell or Huxley. Or a metal band that isn't influenced by black sabbath. Or a western country that has 0 influence from Rome.

My point is that Tolkien invented every trope in that entire genre. If you diverge too far from his work, it won't even be recognizable as western fantasy anymore
polskagurom on scored.co
6 days ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
it's just magic, they can make any of this shit up because it's a fantasy world it dosen't have to make sense like gravity in minecraft. without it something like Hobbit or Bible would be much more boring
DeplorableGerman on scored.co
6 days ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
"it's interesting because its mysterious" ?
polskagurom on scored.co
6 days ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
kinda, and taken out of reality
DeplorableGerman on scored.co
6 days ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
right. got it. so its basically just "yeah there is this elemental magic and these spiders happen to be affected by it".
polskagurom on scored.co
6 days ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
They are the magic
Coffeenoch on scored.co
6 days ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
Go into a cold dark basement built of stone & dirt, you will find many spiders.
DeplorableGerman on scored.co
6 days ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
a basement in a temperate climate zone, no matter how dark *or how deep-set, is not reaching the low temperatures of sub-arctic (Scandinavia-Northern Russia-Siberia) or arctic regions. there's cold and then there's COLD.
Coffeenoch on scored.co
4 days ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
Well you see, in fantasy writing, what some are going to do is take something normal like "spiders in a cold basement" then make it exaggerated "giant spider in a frozen landscape."
DeplorableGerman on scored.co
4 days ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
fair enough. i guess i tried to apply too much "real world logic". needs more suspension of disbelief :^)
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