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As a side point, I don't believe that any real Jews have existed from around 500 AD on. The "Jews" of Europe may have had some distant drop of blood, or not, but I wouldn't even call them Jews, really.
they aren't racial jews, or the jews of old, or hebrews, or israelites. they are canaanite carthaginian phoenician phrygian heathen filth that propagates via cultish religion more so than racialism; while conveniently using the race stick as an excuse for their disgusting actions.
that's like calling someone a racist for being against islam.
This is my opinion too, both biblical prophecy and historical documents (both from the original Jews themselves) indicate Judea was completely destroyed and its inhabitants either were scattered and then assimilated to other nations or completely died off. The Synagogue of Satan and their Talmud conveniently popped up right as (((Gnosticism))) allegedly disappeared from History, and yet a substantial portion of Talmudic beliefs (especially those from the Zohar) are straight out of Gnosticism. Gnosticism was the original shape-changer religion, while some more benign forms of it did exist, at its worst it was a completely Satanic Ideology directly opposed to the God of the Bible, and it was so thoroughly antagonistic to Christianity that Gnostics actually had the gall to pretend to be Christians and then behave so degenerately to tar actual Christians by association. A lot of the work of the early Church fathers was not just against the remnant of the Jews, but also against Gnostic subversion. Its possible that as the actual jews died off, the few that remained joined with the gnostics to continue to antagonize Christianity.
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The Romans burned all the records of the ancestry of the jews. No one has any records dating before 100 AD or so.
In the First Century, if you read the New Testament closely, it's clear that a very large number of people living in Judea were not descended from Judah. Those people who were descended from Judah are explicitly named so.
I think a large part of the confusion is that when Israel left Egypt, it wasn't just pure-blooded descendants of Israel in their party. In fact, those people probably weren't even a significant portion of the population. Abraham was known to lead a nation with significant enough numbers that he slaughtered the kings in Canaan. Since then Isaac and Jacob's wealth was greatly expanded, making them royalty of an entire nation not blood-related to them. Hence, why they had to find people to marry in a far away land. So if people kept reproducing, by the time Moses leads the people of Israel out of Egypt, the vast majority aren't even related to Israel by blood.
Carry forward and read the rest of the OT and it's clear that people would join the nation of Israel, sometimes one at a time, but sometimes entire cities. Reading the account in Ruth it's also very clear that the true-blooded descendants of Israel were inter-marrying with other people, contrary to Moses' commandments not to commit adultery. So by the time of the exile, Babylon noted that they took all the descendants of Judah, and then they also took the artisans and engineers and such, leaving only the poor behind -- who likely had little or no blood of Judah in them. Then when the jews came back under the Persian Empire, only a small portion came and found themselves surrounded by Gentiles who had no relation to Israel at all, not even the nation of Israel. And then fast forward until the Greeks conquer the area, and now you have a bunch of Greeks moving in and taking over, and what few descendants of Judah were left are marrying them. By the time Jesus is born, you could probably count on two hands the families that could claim descent from Judah, and even then, Jesus' line was corrupted by Ruth.
So after the Romans burned the geneaology, it was over. No one could legally claim to be descended from Judah. Even if they could, they likely had none of his blood in them. Jesus was truly the last true descendant of Judah.
Paul said being a Jew was in your heart, and that measure is probably even more damning for those who claim Jewishness from a religious aspect today, as they reject the Torah, reject the Messiah, and follow paganized apostate Jewish traditions.
Paul was not a jew in heritage. He was from the tribe of Benjamin. And he counted his heritage as literal dog shit in light of Jesus Christ.
He was a "judean" meaning someone who lived in the Roman province of Judea, just like all the Romans, Greeks, and all the canaanites living in the land at the time. Only a few of them, like Jesus, weer actually descended from Judah. The rest were imposters.
Your ignorance on this topic is astounding. Either you are a jew or you are a jew lover.
that's like calling someone a racist for being against islam.
In the First Century, if you read the New Testament closely, it's clear that a very large number of people living in Judea were not descended from Judah. Those people who were descended from Judah are explicitly named so.
I think a large part of the confusion is that when Israel left Egypt, it wasn't just pure-blooded descendants of Israel in their party. In fact, those people probably weren't even a significant portion of the population. Abraham was known to lead a nation with significant enough numbers that he slaughtered the kings in Canaan. Since then Isaac and Jacob's wealth was greatly expanded, making them royalty of an entire nation not blood-related to them. Hence, why they had to find people to marry in a far away land. So if people kept reproducing, by the time Moses leads the people of Israel out of Egypt, the vast majority aren't even related to Israel by blood.
Carry forward and read the rest of the OT and it's clear that people would join the nation of Israel, sometimes one at a time, but sometimes entire cities. Reading the account in Ruth it's also very clear that the true-blooded descendants of Israel were inter-marrying with other people, contrary to Moses' commandments not to commit adultery. So by the time of the exile, Babylon noted that they took all the descendants of Judah, and then they also took the artisans and engineers and such, leaving only the poor behind -- who likely had little or no blood of Judah in them. Then when the jews came back under the Persian Empire, only a small portion came and found themselves surrounded by Gentiles who had no relation to Israel at all, not even the nation of Israel. And then fast forward until the Greeks conquer the area, and now you have a bunch of Greeks moving in and taking over, and what few descendants of Judah were left are marrying them. By the time Jesus is born, you could probably count on two hands the families that could claim descent from Judah, and even then, Jesus' line was corrupted by Ruth.
So after the Romans burned the geneaology, it was over. No one could legally claim to be descended from Judah. Even if they could, they likely had none of his blood in them. Jesus was truly the last true descendant of Judah.
He was a "judean" meaning someone who lived in the Roman province of Judea, just like all the Romans, Greeks, and all the canaanites living in the land at the time. Only a few of them, like Jesus, weer actually descended from Judah. The rest were imposters.
Your ignorance on this topic is astounding. Either you are a jew or you are a jew lover.