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BlueDrache on scored.co
1 year ago 8 points (+0 / -0 / +8Score on mirror ) 5 children
Are you drunk again?


"Vengeance is mine, sayith the LORD".

You forgive them unless you have some *direct* mandate that God has given you special dispensation.

Failing that ... it's always better to beg forgiveness (confession) than to ask for permission.
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Vlad_The_Impaler on scored.co
1 year ago 4 points (+0 / -0 / +4Score on mirror ) 2 children
1. pray

2. impale your enemy

3. pray again
derjudenjager on scored.co
1 year ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror ) 1 child
You left out 4. Impale your enemy again and repeat 1-4
ketobikerdude on scored.co
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Profit!
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WeedleTLiar on scored.co
1 year ago 3 points (+0 / -0 / +3Score on mirror ) 1 child
Sometimes loving your enemy means teaching them the error of their ways.
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Breadpilled on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
> oppress you and make it that you can't fight back.

You literally can't, though.

> Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.

> Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of God, for it is written, “Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.”

-Romans

Given the context this is being written in, Paul is being very explicit. You may *refuse to comply* with the government *if* they are ordering you to sin, but under *no* circumstances are you to actually defend yourself from them, under threat of damnation. No matter how they oppress you. If someone quotes these verses as evidence that your views are "unchristian," they aren't spinning some sneaky interpretation. They're just right.

If I were a jew, I'd be rubbing my hands pretty giddily at the thought of White people irreversibly internalizing these teachings as morally binding.
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Breadpilled on scored.co
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I'm not a Christian, but your response is what I like to hear from those who are.

I'm just pointing out, that stance does deviate from Christian orthodoxy, and it does functionally make you something that is of your own design.
BlueDrache on scored.co
1 year ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror ) 1 child
Love of enemy starts with love of self. If you can't forgive, you can't receive forgiveness.

Prayer. Lots of prayer. Constant prayer. Self reflection and a willingness to repent.

Epiphany is its reward.
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WeedleTLiar on scored.co
1 year ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror )
Understand that God is, by definition, Good and the absolute best thing you can do for yourself is to give yourself over to God's path for you, even if it brings pain (and it certainly will).

If you love yourself, you must want the best for yourself, which means surrendering to God.

Remember that you, as a child of Eve, are capable of Good and evil. Submitting to God's will is not to become a puppet, but to let go of everything about yourself except what is Good. It is still your will, but it is the absolute best of what you could be.
BlueDrache on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
Every mass starts the same, though. Usually the priest/celebrant (especially if Jesuit) reminds the congregation that we, as only human, are weak and are in constant need of God's help.

# *PENITENTIAL ACT*

"You were sent to heal the contrite of heart. Lord have mercy."

*Lord have Mercy*

"You came to call sinners. Christ have mercy."

*Christ have Mercy*

"You are seated at the right hand of the Father to intercede for us. Lord have Mercy."

*Lord have Mercy*

"May our Lord have Mercy on us, forgive us our sins and bring us to everlasting life."

*Amen*


Yes ... deny narcissism, vanity, pride ... all that ... those are forms of self-love that have replaced God, much like the idols that Solomon fell to. Study Samuel, Chronicles and Kings in the OT and pay attention to Saul. He's the classic narcissist. There's even a verse that points it out about him caring more of what others thought of him and it becoming his driving force.

But again, going back to the weakness of our humanity, it is on display on how the Roman soldiers treated Jesus during the mocking and crowning of thorns. They would give Him a reed (or it could be interpreted as a staff) to signify His rulership and then take it away and beat Him with it while spitting on Him.

This is symbolic of what we do to Jesus in our daily lives with the constant battle of : "I will do Your will"/"I want what I want and I will take it."

Each one of us has our own personal battles and must come to Christ on his own. Just remember that the Love of the Father is a perfect Love, as all things from the Father are and Jesus was sent to provide the pathway to that Love. A big part of that pathway is confession as seen in the conversation between Nathan and David after David basically rapes Bathsheba and has Uriah murdered. David confesses with a contrite heart and is forgiven ("The LORD has put away your sin, you shall not die.") ... but forgiveness doesn't mean he will escape the justice that follows disobedience.

But ... self-love is OK. Just don't let it replace God.

https://app.podcastguru.io/podcast/daily-tv-mass-1503989676

https://app.podcastguru.io/podcast/the-bible-in-a-year-with-fr-mike-schmitz-1539568321 <--- I recommend. I'm on my second playthrough.
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The more you post the more I see you're nothing but a filthy jeet.
RealWildRanter on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
There's no love without justice which is one the the cardinal virtues. Go read the Catechism by St Pius X.

https://www.ewtn.com/catholicism/library/catechism-of-st-pius-x-1286
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RealWildRanter on scored.co
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Here I extend my hand to help you with the teachings of a saint, and you spit on it? Eat shit pajeet.
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WeedleTLiar on scored.co
1 year ago 4 points (+0 / -0 / +4Score on mirror )
This, and it's very hard to accept much less embrace.

It's not your place to take vengeance. You are fallible while God knows everything. He knows how to punish sin, even if it doesn't look that way to you. You may see sinners escaping justice, but all you see is their public face, not their inner heart, but God sees and knows what they truly fear.

Your duty to God is to remain faithful in the face of evil and trust in God. We are not in the state we're in because Good men have done nothing, but because men have despaired and turned from Good in the face of evil.
ScallionPancake on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
> You forgive them

lol wow
BlueDrache on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
What part of the commandment did you not understand? You are approaching this from a scornful position, no?
Breadpilled on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
> You forgive them unless you have some direct mandate that God has given you special dispensation.

This is Christianity's biggest problem imo, and it's why it cannot be "The Answer" to our current issues. This teaching is spiritually cucked, plain and simple. According to this dogma, if your state run institutions get captured, GG. Revolt is a sin unless you're a prince or politician who orders it from on high. You've gotta voot your way back into power before it becomes not sinful to try and create radical change again.

White men, the common folk, taking matters into their own hands when power becomes corrupt is something they've historically treated as a textbook moral duty (the foundation of America, hello?) I spit on the notion that doing so is "sinful."
TakenusernameA on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
You can only forgive those who repent, and you cannot be a friend with a man who wants to be your enemies. You can love your enemy, but you still must fight him if he attempts to harm you or those in your care (because thats actually the loving thing to do) Never in the Bible does God say He forgives the unrepentant, or that we can either. The conception of forgiveness without repentance is a product of the further judiazation of Protestantism and has no biblical or traditional basis.
BlueDrache on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
Thank you for the clarification.
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