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posted 1 year ago by Germany on scored.co (+0 / -0 / +35Score on mirror )
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TallestSkil on scored.co
1 year ago 9 points (+0 / -0 / +9Score on mirror ) 2 children
Thing is, the Talmud has been codified since roughly 400 AD and hasn’t changed since then. What the actual *oral* tradition was *before* that is, obviously, up for debate. Fortunately it’s irrelevant because the only thing that matters there is finding every extant copy, burning it, and then getting rid of every brain that contains the information thereafter.
TakenusernameA on scored.co
1 year ago 3 points (+0 / -0 / +3Score on mirror )
Multiple version of the Talmud existed and were being debated, but the one ultimately settled on was the (((Babylonian))) talmud in the 5th century. However, there was actually a good deal of opposition to it even amongst the jews, with the Karaite sect probably sparing humanity from jewish rule simply by refusing to accept it until they became a fringe minority of jews. And I guarantee they have been amending the Talmud to make it worse since it was written, because they have also been fooling around with the (((masoretic text))) to remove references to Christ.
BeefyBelisarius on scored.co
1 year ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror ) 1 child
>What the actual oral tradition was before that is, obviously, up for debate.

Which it was, back in the 2nd temple days when the pharasees were the only sect claiming to have an oral tradition. Probably something they picked up in the Babylonian captivity or from the Edomites who moved into Judah after the Babylonian conquest. Pharasees, of course, were the authors of the talmud after they fled from Titus crushing the great revolt.

>finding every extant copy, burning it

That's tempting, but it backfired when the French did exactly that after King Saint Louis put the talmud on trial. Their descendants forgot and let the jews creep back in and repay them with the devastation of the French Revolution.

No, burn all but one copy, then use that copy to make small booklets of the worst excerpts, starting with the parts about not letting goyim read it. Then make it both law and tradition that anyone in a leadership position, both sacred and secular, must read this cautionary booklet before exercising any authority, so they'll know why it can't be allowed to take root again.
TallestSkil on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
>Their descendants forgot and let the jews creep back in

The trick is to also kill all jews.
BeefyBelisarius on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
At most they could have killed all the ones in France, which wouldn't prevent the ones outside from sneaking in after waiting a generation or so for people to forget. Future generations need warned to stay vigilant.
MoonManMythos on scored.co
1 year ago 3 points (+0 / -0 / +3Score on mirror ) 4 children
You're really not going to like applying this logic to the NT
TakenusernameA on scored.co
1 year ago 3 points (+0 / -0 / +3Score on mirror ) 1 child
Actually, the NT was written down pretty rapidly, Revelation was probably the latest written since it was composed by St John in his old age.
MoonManMythos on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
And the earliest physical copy that exists is from over century after the events of the gospels
TallestSkil on scored.co
1 year ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror )
Why, because it hasn’t changed in ~1800 years?
BlokeyMcBlokeFace on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
Earliest evidence is from around 150ad.

>The earliest manuscript of a New Testament text is a business-card-sized fragment from the Gospel of John, Rylands Library Papyrus P52, which may be as early as the first half of the 2nd century. The first complete copies of single New Testament books appear around 200

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_manuscript
MoonManMythos on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
Correct, over a century following the events depicted therein
BeefyBelisarius on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
That's just the oldest copy of what the Apostle John wrote. And don't forget Christ's ministry began ~28AD and the Apostles were fairly young men at the time.
detransthrowaway on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
I agree. Oral tradition is often at worst simplified. You'd spend a very long time memorizing it, and an even longer time repeating it to others. It's something for those with dedication to their religion, as ancient peoples often were.
BringTheCat789 on scored.co
1 year ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror )
Native Americans are some of the worst offenders with this "oral knowledge" bullshit. Mention that their ancestors migrated to America from Asia over a then-existing land bridge in Alaska and you will hear all about it.

But when a white man uncovers a weird mound of dirt underneath hundreds of years of untrimmed brush on his land, these native americans come out of the woodwork and claim it is a hyper-sacred burial ground that is immensely important to them spiritually, and they claim rights to it and show up weekly to chant or whatever. Somehow they have passed down for thousands of years perfectly where they have been geographically before any of the world was mapped, but they regularly drop the locations of their most sacred places. Lmao.
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