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Theyre Libertines, not Libertarians.

They believe "Freedom" is not having consequences for their actions, as opposed to not having their actions restricted to begin with. Theyre more than fine with the state restricting the actions of others, provided they dont restrict their ability to be mindless baby murdering hedonists.

give it time. the more jews pull false flags on the populace, the more they'll cry for top-down restrictions of rights and freedoms. they'll beg for a full surveillance state

i got a feeling anyone that would be on bottom-left will drift up to top-left as the months go by

If that was true, they wouldn't demand hate-speech laws. They want drugs, faggotry, and abortion to be legal, but they don't have a problem with gulags or a secret police.

Indeed. I don't always agree with what you say, but you're often right on the money on those points on which you differ from the average user here.

According to the dominant ideology, a 'good person' is deep within the *bottom* left quadrant. Prominent commentators closer to, or within, the Authoritarian Left, such as Jackson Hinkle and Caleb Maupin, are dismissed by them with labels such as 'brocialist', 'Putinist', 'Red Fascist', 'Sovok', and, perhaps most commonly, 'tankie'. This means that the meme is wrong.

From the 'good person' perspective, the Authoritarian Left is simply composed of confused persons who are 'really' from the Authoritarian Right, which is the antithesis of the Libertarian Left: opposed to both their libertarianism and to their Leftism.

Online Lib-Leftists are doing this as we speak in Germany with the BSW and its half-Iranian leader, Sahra Wagenknecht, whom they falsely charge are Far-Right (i.e. Authoritarian Right) Russian puppets. In reality, BSW is also Libertarian Left, but closer to the Authoritarian Left than most on the Libertarian Left would be comfortable with.

This leaves the last position, that which is also closest to theirs, the Libertarian Right. We find the likes of Murray Rothbard inhabiting this quadrant. Between them, disagreements are chiefly over economic matters, such as welfare statism, and over the paradox of tolerance: the Libertarian Left follows that same reasoning once elucidated on paper by Karl Popper (tolerance and freedom paradoxically require certain intolerances and unfreedoms to survive), whereas the Libertarian Right tends to reject this line of reasoning on the (correct) grounds that it leads to something undesirable, i.e. to today's 'anti-discrimination' and 'hate speech' laws.

From the Authoritarian Right, these laws are simply what the greater number of inferiors out there use to oppress their smaller number of superiors, of whom they live in perpetual fear: higher quality people *should* be able to 'discriminate' against and 'hate' obvious degenerates, because that is how we advance as a species. When we reverse that, i.e. we too greatly enslave the strong to the weak, who rule through sheer force of numbers combined with democratic or quasi-democratic political systems, we simply select for the lack of qualities rather than qualities, and thus we regress as a species. Hence the ongoing global decline in average IQ, birth rates, and so forth.

Ultimately, people like us *do* share more in common with the likes of Hinkle and Maupin, as detestable as they are in many respects, than with libertarians such as Yaron Brook and other Randian Objectivists. However, both groups are more tolerable than the likes of Robert Reich and Richard Wolff. The quadrant they inhabit, usually coloured green on political quizzes, is inhabited only by the proponents of pure, unadulterated degeneration. It is always inhabited by the worst people within any given time and place: that quadrant in the 1960s was inhabited by the worst people of the 1960s, and almost every faggot, tranny, and other piece of garbage resides deep within that quadrant today.