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Shroud of Turin (media.scored.co)
posted 1 year ago by Spoonks on scored.co (+0 / -0 / +30Score on mirror )
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35 comments:
PraiseBeToScience on scored.co
1 year ago 4 points (+0 / -0 / +4Score on mirror ) 1 child
... didn't the Church itself say that this was likely a forgery, and have maintained as such from the day it was 'revealed'?
RealWildRanter on scored.co
1 year ago 4 points (+0 / -0 / +4Score on mirror ) 2 children
Said the heretic atheist.

You're next in line after the kikes.

Burn in hell for eternity scum.
NiggerWithAForklift on scored.co
1 year ago 5 points (+0 / -0 / +5Score on mirror ) 1 child
> gives reasonable doubt

> "OY VEYYYYYYYYY BURN IN HELL FOR DA HOLLOCOOOOOOOOST"
RealWildRanter on scored.co
1 year ago 3 points (+0 / -0 / +3Score on mirror )
I can hear a chirp over there. Don't you have a battery to change?
PraiseBeToScience on scored.co
1 year ago 3 points (+0 / -0 / +3Score on mirror ) 1 child
Are you saying John was also a lying atheist because he said the tomb contained two discarded linens, one being the head wrapping, not one big pillow sack they shoved the body in.
RealWildRanter on scored.co
1 year ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror ) 1 child
Nope retard. I said you are an atheist as yourself acknowledged many times before. Just refrain of blaspheming our Lord and find something else to entertain your vain mind.
PraiseBeToScience on scored.co
1 year ago 3 points (+0 / -0 / +3Score on mirror ) 1 child
Nobody cares what you think though.
RealWildRanter on scored.co
1 year ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror ) 1 child
Evidence shows the contrary.

You though are going to die alone.
detransthrowaway on scored.co
1 year ago 4 points (+0 / -0 / +4Score on mirror ) 2 children
If it wasn't the face of Jesus or made divinely, how else did it get there? There's a million-dollar reward if you can recreate it, even the hair is imprinted somehow, which simple burning can't exactly do.
PraiseBeToScience on scored.co
1 year ago 7 points (+0 / -0 / +7Score on mirror ) 3 children
Because it goes something like this:

"How did that image get there?"

"Well we analyzed it and found it was likely painted on."

"I DON'T BELIEVE YOU".

It's been analyzed multiple times in multiple ways and everybody comes to the same conclusion, that it likely was created sometime in the 14th century, which coincidentally is right when it was "found". The Church itself declared it a forgery at the time.

There's only two "legitimate ways" for that image to get on there, if we rule out forgery:

1) Putrefaction from decay/skin oils soaked into the shroud.

2) Some divine something somehow someway burned the image in.

Except Jesus was only dead for three days. Even in Judea three days the body isn't going to "leak" that much and even if it did, the backside of the shroud would be very nasty. This also doesn't account for the hair being perfectly 'framed' to the face. His hair would've been laying back pooled around the back of the head.

Essentially the "the shroud is real" crowd has to rely solely on divinity, which means by definition there's no evidence for that either, nor could they provide such evidence by virtue of it simply being a divine impression.

And I'm gonna point out that the odds of a 2,000 year old piece of linen surviving intact like that is astronomically low. Functionally *nothing* linen of the Romans that survived. Almost none of their armor did, nor the Legio standards, or anything of that sort, and much of that would've been far newer than the Shroud of Turin, since Imperial citizens were still around hundreds of years after that point.

Christians barely existed for a span of 250 years after the Crucifixion. They almost certainly were not carefully keeping relics in museum-like preservation... much less hidden away like that for 1,300 years in total secrecy.

... nor can you Biblically claim that the shroud was found in the undisturbed tomb since a key part of the resurrection story is obviously that the Romans went into the tomb when they found it open, which lends even further credence to the idea that anything left in that tomb would've been removed. This wasn't King Tut's hidden burial chamber.

Last but not least, if the meme is claiming 'proof of divinity', the shroud at best simply proves He was dead.
TakenusernameA on scored.co
1 year ago 3 points (+0 / -0 / +3Score on mirror )
>that it likely was created sometime in the 14th century

This was later deboonked when they re-tested a different part of the image and found it was dated much older. Its likely what happened is that the shroud itself is genuine, but someone during the middle ages tried to a restoration of it. The media is run by jews and were more than happy to spread the initial findings about part of it being from the 14th century, but completely memory holed the results of the new tests because the last thing they want is a resurgence in Catholicism.
Captain_Raamsley on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xAVZp9tW5FU&pp=ygUic2hyb3VkIG9mIHR1cmluIDNkIGltYWdlIG9mIGplc3VzIA%3D%3D
BeefyBelisarius on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
Where would 14th century people even get the idea of a photographic negative to paint something like that?
PraiseBeToScience on scored.co
1 year ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror ) 1 child
???

The photo negative is used because it stands out more. The real article is reddish smudges on linen. The negative is popular because it has higher contrast. It's not anything special beyond that.
BeefyBelisarius on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
That's a modern answer, try putting yourself in the head of someone who lived before photography was invented. Where would they even get such an idea and why isn't there more art from that era in this style?
PraiseBeToScience on scored.co
1 year ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror ) 1 child
This makes zero sense.

The shroud first appeared in the 1300s so clearly there is an image on it visible without needing a photo negative.

Are you under the impression the visage on it was only discovered recently via photography?
ChippingToe on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
>There's a million-dollar reward if you can recreate it

Is that true? Wouldn't it be as simple as wrapping a dead guy in a similar fabric for a couple of days?
yudsfpbc on scored.co
1 year ago 4 points (+0 / -0 / +4Score on mirror )
There's other very strange things about the fabric.

I believe the Italians proved that the linen changed under intense UV light in a way that is not consistent with long-term exposure to the sun.
Coffeenoch on scored.co
1 year ago 4 points (+0 / -0 / +4Score on mirror ) 1 child
4chan autists have delved into the shroud extensively & found ample evidence that it could not possibly have been faked, even with modern technology, doesn't mean it is Jesus himself but just that the shroud was not a 14th century hoax. If I can find the archived thread I'll post it here
Captain_Raamsley on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xAVZp9tW5FU&pp=ygUic2hyb3VkIG9mIHR1cmluIDNkIGltYWdlIG9mIGplc3VzIA%3D%3D
TakenusernameA on scored.co
1 year ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror ) 1 child
Jesus is literally a gigachad according to all the images of his face we have.
FN57 on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
Yet the Bible describes him as unremarkable.
LilyVargas on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
What? I'm pretty sure there are many point of describing Him as incredibly handsome and ethereal.
Spoonks on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
Am I the only one who thinks 'The Shroud of Turin' kind of looks like Vlad The Impaler?
Vlad_The_Impaler on scored.co
1 year ago 5 points (+0 / -0 / +5Score on mirror )
I think most of these holy relics are hoaxes and scams.

I sport a toothbrush mustache now. https://communities.win/c/ConsumeProduct/p/17txfG99oW/vlad-the-impaler-gets-toothbrush/c
HerrBBQ on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
Contemporary descriptions of Jesus described him as clean-shaven, like it or not. The shroud isn't real.
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