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PoliticalDichotomy on scored.co
4 months ago 11 points (+0 / -0 / +11Score on mirror ) 1 child
I think it's really area specific and also what kind of lifestyle and/or work you like doing. Generally speaking, the higher they pay the harder to get into, the more stressful and the more hazardous the job. There's no free lunch.
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ApexVeritas on scored.co
4 months ago 10 points (+0 / -0 / +10Score on mirror ) 3 children
I can confirm that the pay is wildly different based on area. Many years ago when I worked construction, guys that focused only on drywalling were paid, in my area (a fly over state), about $15/hr (that was quite a bit back then), but drywallers in Vegas and California (at that time) were making $25-30/hr. Government contracts also paid noticeably more.


In general, though, to address OP's question, I would avoid general contracting, construction, and carpentry in most locations. It's almost entirely been taken over by Jose and Juan, who have pushed pay down considerably. Skilled White carpenters are still worth their weight in gold, but getting to that point, in the industry right now, is a masochistic endeavor, unless you have family in the trade which can help you.


Electricians, plumbers, metal workers, and welders are usually much more White, and pay well, last I checked.


As a caveat, those jobs can attract occasional druggies, who will put your life in danger. So, as a general rule of thumb, don't listen to what other people tell you about what is "safe", trust yourself, and rely on yourself for determining what is and isn't safe. I've seen too many fuck-ups in the industry to blindly trust anyone. The druggies and morons are less likely in the more qualified trades, but you'll absolutely see them anytime you work with a general contractor, which are usually at most job sites you'll be at.
ScipioAfricanus1911 on scored.co
4 months ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror )
I agree but will say it's a shame because if you work for the right general contractor (IE a White man that doesn't hire truckloads of beaners) it can be a great way to get somewhat proficient at a lot of different trades and figure out what you prefer, or can at least tolerate doing every day for decades.

I started working summers as a teen for a general contractor back in the early aughts, and returned to the same company a few years later when I figured out the office world was not my cup of tea. I had the opportunity to learn a lot because I prefer to know what the fuck I'm doing in anything I engage in, and want to do it well.

You are right about the majority of GCs these days though. There are a lot of mother fuckers running around calling themselves that who shouldn't even be referring to themselves as a handyman. To say nothing of the extremely common practice of hiring hordes of home depot parking lot dwellers for 8 hours of work (supposedly) before they disappear into the mist, or being stuck with the backhoe guy who is on day five of his meth bender and just got the call that his wife left him and took his stash. But I digress.

I love woodworking and there is a visceral appeal to turning piles of lumber into a home. But unless I move up to Pennsylvania & become a part of an Amish community, which I genuinely would be game for if not for the fact I would always be considered an outsider (and rightfully so) it is doubtful it will ever again be my primary way of earning a living. For exactly the reasons you stated.
WeedleTLiar on scored.co
4 months ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror )
>As a caveat, those jobs can attract occasional druggies, who will put your life in danger.

Was working on a roof when the supervisor called everyone over to one of the anchors. When we were gathered, he grabbed the attached rope with one hand and yanked the whole thing out of the roof. Some moron didn't bother to find a truss and just screwed into the plywood deck.

Company was fucked and didn't even fire him, until later, for posting pictures of himself smoking week on the roof to Facebook with his company swag on.

Always check your own shit and don't listen to *anyone* telling you to hurry up.
PoliticalDichotomy on scored.co
4 months ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
Agreed. Honestly, the more brains the job takes, the better it'll be for a White person. The non-White foreign labor simply can't do the brainiac jobs. Some of the most successful tradesmen I know (I'm white collar but in my field of work I encounter a lot of blue collar guys) are the tradesmen with a brain and they're almost always White. Get some skills, make some connections, start your own business an/or buy one and/or take over for your mentor when he's looking to get out of his.
revtreynine on scored.co
4 months ago 8 points (+0 / -0 / +8Score on mirror ) 1 child
Kikes are about to crash their world economy (already started) so I would avoid something that relies on new construction and pick something that still does great in a bad economy.

People always fix and change lighting, plumbing, heating and cooling.

As far as the easiest of those physically it's electrician. Plumbing and heating and cooling you have some pretty heavy stuff and you often have to dig in new construction with plumbing, though you can find people to do that.

If you hate talking to people or having someone stand over you probably HVAC, though you are by often yourself or with one other person in all new construction as a plumber and electrician.

Me personally I would go with electrician, but any skilled trade can be good, if you are good and depending where you live. People can't do ANYTHING themselves anymore. I would like carpentry the best probably if I was younger. I did it for awhile in summers and really enjoyed it. My father was a carpenter. Often wished I would have just kept doing it. There was something really rewarding about building something you could look at and appreciate. I just don't know how safe it would be if the economy tanks if you aren't confident adding other things or subcontracting things for projects like house additions.
llamatr0n on scored.co
4 months ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
In addition, "electrification of everything" is happening - whether we want it to or not.

EVs , temperature control, cooking

so don't become a natural gas fitter :)

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Captain_Raamsley on scored.co
4 months ago 5 points (+0 / -0 / +5Score on mirror ) 1 child
***The trades do not pay well, do not be decieved.***
WeedleTLiar on scored.co
4 months ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
I made more in my first year roofing than in my fifth year doing tier three tech support (which required a bachelors degree).
Captain_Raamsley on scored.co
4 months ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
Thats cool bro. Roofing company offered me $18/hr for the first year. Thats poverty.
Jeffersonian_Man on scored.co
4 months ago 4 points (+0 / -0 / +4Score on mirror ) 1 child
All the trades can make good money, stay out of industrial facilities and away from heavy machinery for safety, and getting in is based on who you know and what you're willing to do. I'm a carpenter and when I first started I was a laborer making like 12 an hour to haul heavy shit for 12hrs shifts. Few years later and I do my own stuff making up to 20k a week, but usually around 5k. All cash
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Jeffersonian_Man on scored.co
4 months ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror ) 1 child
Partial remodel can run you 10k. Can finish that in 2 days with my friends. Residential is where the money is for me. I got a buddy that does only concrete and he's done some 50k jobs with 3 dudes. Yes industrial electricians that only run conduit and data usually have it good. Guys at the factory I used to contract at made 53/hr and never did anything wild.
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Jeffersonian_Man on scored.co
4 months ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
I'd consider that wood working, and it can be super lucrative. I just don't mess with that, built a few cabinets and not my thing.
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SprinterVanBeethoven on scored.co
4 months ago 3 points (+0 / -0 / +3Score on mirror ) 1 child
I used to say the electrical trade. I'm an electrician. Its decent pay depending on what route you go. It's not as labor intense as other trades. But... I'm not sure where I'd start if electricity was shut down for any long term. Where as other trades would still be useful. So think about that.
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SprinterVanBeethoven on scored.co
4 months ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror )
I was never in IBEW but all the guys I know who are like it and make good money. Industrial can be good for a guy who has no family. You can travel around alot make a lot of money.
SFAM1A on scored.co
4 months ago 3 points (+0 / -0 / +3Score on mirror ) 1 child
Welding. (a) kinda, it depends; (b) yeah, generally; (c) reasonably so.
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SFAM1A on scored.co
4 months ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror ) 1 child
No but I've done it through work, and know people who do it full time. If I had to drop everything and go into a trade, it'd be welding.
OstFronter on scored.co
4 months ago 5 points (+0 / -0 / +5Score on mirror ) 2 children
Excellent choice if you want to get asthma and then die of lung cancer at 60.
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ApexVeritas on scored.co
4 months ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
You could always wear your own respirator to protect your lungs, they're just a bitch to wear, are really hot, and you have to shave every day. It's not something I would ever want to do (especially now that I have a big beard). And, some people (like me) can't wear them, as any imperfections in nasal cavities and mucus membranes in the head can prevent an air tight seal around the mask, making them useless. When I went to get fitted for a mask when I worked in a rock quarry, the nurse couldn't get any of the respirators to properly seal. They even tried a full face mask, and still couldn't get an air tight seal. The nurse and I just surmised I had a weird head.
dylan on scored.co
4 months ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
Post your phrenology report
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ShekelJa on scored.co
4 months ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
Electrician. Dispatcher.
ValuesLiberty on scored.co
4 months ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
Get one of those seamless gutter machines. Seems easy enough to replace gutters
xmasskullx on scored.co
4 months ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
Auto Mechanics. Gold-advice.
GoldenInnosStatue on scored.co
4 months ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
if you live in a hot region A/C technician is a always in demand
PurestEvil on scored.co
4 months ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
Hmm... hard to say. Car mechanic, welding and working with iron and wood for things in and around a house. These things are generally high in demand and always be.
Breadpilled on scored.co
4 months ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
I make 30/hr driving a Class B CDL truck

Truck driving is an extremely high combination of both b and c. Avoid long haul and the work is super chill aside from long hours, CDLs are piss easy to get and jobs are everywhere (heavily depends on region, though.)

Idk what "high paying" is to you but local truck jobs will probably top out in the 80-100k range. But again heavily depends on region and you do need a few years under your belt for the best jobs. Insanely good money for how easy it is, though.
Tap_isarealboy on scored.co
4 months ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
First of all, trades are skilled labor and by default take time to get skilled at. Sometimes a decade to hone your craft.

All trades have easy entry but there is a learning curve that you will ascend or fall off of.

With the mental retardation of Gen Z and Gen Alpha, there will be a future deficit of competent tradesmen. Therefore all trades are valuable and can make lots of money depending on your niche and skill.

That being said: ease of entry is carpentry and dirt work. They are also not stressful and can make lots of money. Especially dirt workers that put in septic systems.

If you have a brain: steam fitters and electricians. Higher barrier for entry because you can't be retarded. Work is more stressful but the money is primo.

Also any trade that deals with hazardous materials can make a fortune. Higher barrier for entry due to licensing requirements and regs on disposal.

Plumbers are good too, especially service plumbers.

Home inspectors also make stupid money. Some guys clear 5k per week.

Welders can make good money but you have to be good.

Blacksmiths can make insane money but not by making swords and daggers. I met a blacksmith that clears 300k profit per year by making goofy shit that is easy to make that people buy.

Jewelcrafters can make good money but have high upfront costs.


The better your niche the better your money, especially if it is weird or undesirable to most.
xmasskullx on scored.co
4 months ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
Auto Mechanics. Gold-advice.
xmasskullx on scored.co
4 months ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
Auto Mechanics. Gold-advice.
4 months ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
Welding! Bitch
KyleIsThisTall on scored.co
4 months ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
Gender reassignment surgeon
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xmasskullx on scored.co
4 months ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
Auto Mechanics. Gold-advice.
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dylan on scored.co
4 months ago 4 points (+0 / -0 / +4Score on mirror )
Take it from someone who just built a home office shed/gym in my backyard with no construction skills:

If you want to learn, you can. Go slowly, ask questions, measure things obsessively before cutting, and have a good plan and you’ll do great. I did the foundation work, ran Ethernet and electrical, and even installed my own mini split. The whole project has been massively rewarding for me and a great bonding experience between myself and my father in law.

Never let your lack of experience keep you from pursuing more!
Newuser99 on scored.co
4 months ago 3 points (+0 / -0 / +3Score on mirror )
Mexicans own that space unless you want to do cabinetry or something skilled. Framing is all peso money
WeedleTLiar on scored.co
4 months ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
>a) makes lots of money, b) is not too hazardous or stressful, c) is easy to get into

Pick one.

Anything that's high pay is either dangerous or highly sought after (which means you have to push hard to even get in).

Anthing safe and easy will pay nothing or have massive barriers to entry.

Anything easy to get into will have high turnover, which means the work and/or pay sucks.

Trades aren't some hidden secret, they just require sacrifices that most office mooks aren't willing to make. That's why I like them.
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