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7 months ago6 points(+0/-0/+6Score on mirror)4 children
I still find Patriot Front to be retarded. Years of action and all they've done is draw goofy media attention to themselves and completely failed to move the conversation forward in any meaningful way.
It's complete failure to change it's tactics in the face of this makes me, and anyone else with a brain, rightfully suspicious of their motivations.
If it smells like a grift and acts like a grift then I'm going to treat it as a grift. If you want support, earn it with worthwhile action, and not gay communist finger pointing.
7 months ago11 points(+0/-0/+11Score on mirror)1 child
You're completely missing the point. Their value isn't in any "peaceful protesting" they do. Peaceful protesting is ultimately useless because it will never move the needle, so to speak. Patriot Front's value is in that to *prepare* for said "peaceful protesting", they are gathering together a body of young White men committed to bettering their country. These young White men are gathering together, organizing together, training together, ideologically conditioning together, getting physically fit, and working to better each other's lives.
Now tell me, if crap hits the fan tomorrow and you had to pull 50 young White men out of a city to hand them a rifle and tell them we're gonna have a Revolution, would you rather it be 50 random dudes who don't know each other, are in varying degrees of physical fitness but most likely no degree at all, and have no training or discipline to speak of whatsoever? Or would you rather it be the young White men from the previous paragraph?
7 months ago7 points(+0/-0/+7Score on mirror)2 children
> You're completely missing the point.
I'm just telling you the impression they give off. If this is the point then they've done a terrible job of broadcasting that.
> training together
There may be better examples, but from what I've seen, doing "weekend warrior" drills on nice sunny days is not a meaningful act of preparation.
> if crap hits the fan tomorrow and you had to pull 50 young White men out of a city to hand them a rifle
Is this how you imagine a "revolution" happening? First, if you don't already have a rifle, I'm not _giving_ you one. Second, if they're in an urban city, I'm definitely not _giving_ them _anything_ other than the advice to leave that death trap as soon as is possible.
> Or would you rather it be the young White men from the previous paragraph?
I would rather this not be necessary. It's a teenage boy fantasy that if you just hang out, wait for things to get bad enough, and then boil over, than you can swoop in and "save the day."
>There may be better examples, but from what I've seen, doing "weekend warrior" drills on nice sunny days is not a meaningful act of preparation.
TBH it's literally better than anything anyone else is doing.
Shooting your guns is worthless. Ask anyone who's actually been in combat, your casual range marksmanship is one of the least useful skills you can have. 90% of the time you can't even see what you're shooting at.
There's stupid people who pay enormous sums of money for 'tactical training courses' from some definitely-absolutely-for-sure-was-a-military-badass bearded fat fuck, and they go out for a weekend and do stupid shit. But that's worthless too. Training is about repetition and most people can't afford those courses in enough frequency to stick. Honestly, watching Garand Thumb's videos on SERE is about as useful, and that's free.
So yeah, I'll say Weekend Warrior grappling and physical combat sports, especially if they do it frequently enough, is about as good as it gets.
>I'm just telling you the impression they give off. If this is the point then they've done a terrible job of broadcasting that.
Perhaps you haven't done the best job of searching for it? I don't even follow them that closely but I can still read between the lines.
>but from what I've seen, doing "weekend warrior" drills on nice sunny days is not a meaningful act of preparation.
Light-years ahead of sitting around playing video games all day, no?
>Is this how you imagine a "revolution" happening?
This is literally how every revolution happens. A very small irate *minority* starts kicking up a stink, and then everything snowballs from there. They'll have to be the ones to organize everything; because the broad masses of people aren't going to do it on their own.
>First, if you don't already have a rifle, I'm not giving you one
You go to war with the army you *have*, not the army you want. You'd turn away people wanting to fight for your cause because they're too young or too poor to have already purchased one, a felon arrested for political reasons and unable to previously have legally owned one, or any other legitimate reason? In case you haven't noticed, we aint gonna have the numbers to be picky and choosy.
>Second, if they're in an urban city, I'm definitely not giving them anything other than the advice to leave that death trap as soon as is possible.
So you'd turn away everybody who came from an urban area as well? You've just ruled out 80% of the US population; you're gonna have an awfully sample size to draw from, and an even smaller army then.
>I would rather this not be necessary.
Yeah me too. But do you see any other ways out of our current situation? If you do, then I'm all ears because I'd love to find a different one as well.
>It's a teenage boy fantasy that if you just hang out, wait for things to get bad enough, and then boil over, than you can swoop in and "save the day."
Still beats "do nothing, do nothing, do nothing, and then do nothing some more". Again, if you've got any better ideas then I'm all ears.
7 months ago6 points(+0/-0/+6Score on mirror)1 child
I don’t think PF is a grift, listen to what Thomas Rousseau says about their goals and then what he’s doing will make a lot more sense. His group is organizing around long term goals, they are building strong White men to one day become the White leaders our people so desperately need. Those leaders will be racially aware, they’ll infiltrate politics, they’ll build businesses, they’ll use their influence and wealth to make it possible to have a movement that can actually better our people as a whole.
Now if you wanna debate whether or not we have the time to work toward long term goals like Thomas is, that’s a reasonable conversation to have. In my opinion, our time is very limited, but that’s no excuse not to at least try to organize our Men (young men especially) and make them as strong as we can before the SHTF. By all measures, Thomas is helping our side out whether you appreciate how he’s going about it or not.
It's complete failure to change it's tactics in the face of this makes me, and anyone else with a brain, rightfully suspicious of their motivations.
If it smells like a grift and acts like a grift then I'm going to treat it as a grift. If you want support, earn it with worthwhile action, and not gay communist finger pointing.
Now tell me, if crap hits the fan tomorrow and you had to pull 50 young White men out of a city to hand them a rifle and tell them we're gonna have a Revolution, would you rather it be 50 random dudes who don't know each other, are in varying degrees of physical fitness but most likely no degree at all, and have no training or discipline to speak of whatsoever? Or would you rather it be the young White men from the previous paragraph?
I'm just telling you the impression they give off. If this is the point then they've done a terrible job of broadcasting that.
> training together
There may be better examples, but from what I've seen, doing "weekend warrior" drills on nice sunny days is not a meaningful act of preparation.
> if crap hits the fan tomorrow and you had to pull 50 young White men out of a city to hand them a rifle
Is this how you imagine a "revolution" happening? First, if you don't already have a rifle, I'm not _giving_ you one. Second, if they're in an urban city, I'm definitely not _giving_ them _anything_ other than the advice to leave that death trap as soon as is possible.
> Or would you rather it be the young White men from the previous paragraph?
I would rather this not be necessary. It's a teenage boy fantasy that if you just hang out, wait for things to get bad enough, and then boil over, than you can swoop in and "save the day."
Good luck to them.
TBH it's literally better than anything anyone else is doing.
Shooting your guns is worthless. Ask anyone who's actually been in combat, your casual range marksmanship is one of the least useful skills you can have. 90% of the time you can't even see what you're shooting at.
There's stupid people who pay enormous sums of money for 'tactical training courses' from some definitely-absolutely-for-sure-was-a-military-badass bearded fat fuck, and they go out for a weekend and do stupid shit. But that's worthless too. Training is about repetition and most people can't afford those courses in enough frequency to stick. Honestly, watching Garand Thumb's videos on SERE is about as useful, and that's free.
So yeah, I'll say Weekend Warrior grappling and physical combat sports, especially if they do it frequently enough, is about as good as it gets.
Perhaps you haven't done the best job of searching for it? I don't even follow them that closely but I can still read between the lines.
>but from what I've seen, doing "weekend warrior" drills on nice sunny days is not a meaningful act of preparation.
Light-years ahead of sitting around playing video games all day, no?
>Is this how you imagine a "revolution" happening?
This is literally how every revolution happens. A very small irate *minority* starts kicking up a stink, and then everything snowballs from there. They'll have to be the ones to organize everything; because the broad masses of people aren't going to do it on their own.
>First, if you don't already have a rifle, I'm not giving you one
You go to war with the army you *have*, not the army you want. You'd turn away people wanting to fight for your cause because they're too young or too poor to have already purchased one, a felon arrested for political reasons and unable to previously have legally owned one, or any other legitimate reason? In case you haven't noticed, we aint gonna have the numbers to be picky and choosy.
>Second, if they're in an urban city, I'm definitely not giving them anything other than the advice to leave that death trap as soon as is possible.
So you'd turn away everybody who came from an urban area as well? You've just ruled out 80% of the US population; you're gonna have an awfully sample size to draw from, and an even smaller army then.
>I would rather this not be necessary.
Yeah me too. But do you see any other ways out of our current situation? If you do, then I'm all ears because I'd love to find a different one as well.
>It's a teenage boy fantasy that if you just hang out, wait for things to get bad enough, and then boil over, than you can swoop in and "save the day."
Still beats "do nothing, do nothing, do nothing, and then do nothing some more". Again, if you've got any better ideas then I'm all ears.
Now if you wanna debate whether or not we have the time to work toward long term goals like Thomas is, that’s a reasonable conversation to have. In my opinion, our time is very limited, but that’s no excuse not to at least try to organize our Men (young men especially) and make them as strong as we can before the SHTF. By all measures, Thomas is helping our side out whether you appreciate how he’s going about it or not.