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I’ve been doing Rosetta Stone for German. Learning a language of my ancestors has been much more engaging than learning Spanish or the other more mainstream options you get in school. Also, learning a language is a good thing to fill your time, especially if you want to do productive things that you can do indoors.

Pros:

- RS offers a pretty good lifetime deal. I think I paid $200 for a lifetime membership
- Having an app is a bit more engaging than a book. The somewhat interactive nature of it makes it sort of like a game.
- the repetition of basic syntax does help, particularly for vocabulary, which was always my problem in school.

Cons:

- It doesn’t do a good job of explaining grammar rules. Like, you’ll see a word or phrase repeated over and over, but that doesn’t necessarily help you understand the actual rule to what you are seeing.
- It’s hard to understand different situations where a particular rule would change what word you use, for example kein vs nicht.
- I would look up what languages RS offers vs competitors. For example, RS offers Swedish, but not Norwegian. Babbel offers Norwegian but not Swedish.
- Some languages in RS are only available on the web interface. So they have Latin, but you have to be on the website and not on mobile.

I would recommend having something like a 1st year language book on hand with grammar tables so that you can actually understand the why behind certain rules. I would honestly say this is necessary from my experience. There have been too many instances where just repeating something you see doesn’t mean you could actually write it out yourself.

I would also recommend having some books lined up that you’d want to practice in the native language (or movies even). For example, for Swedish, I want to read Among Gnomes and Trolls, which is a kids book with famous illustrations by John Bauer. Having stuff like that to look forward to being able to read on your own is a good motivator.

Anyway, it’s been fun and the cost wasn’t too bad. I probably will try Babbel for Norwegian at some point.
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RacistPepe on scored.co
16 days ago 7 points (+0 / -0 / +7Score on mirror ) 1 child
Grammar is not necessary at the beginning. A German 1st grader will have no idea about any kind of grammar but is able to communicate fluently. Mixing up Der, Die, Das will not be a dealbreaker in communication, same as not knowing all the conjunctions and why to use them. If you desire to become really good at it then at some point grammar will become inevitable but I wouldn’t force it before like schools do.

Edit: At what stage is your German now? Do you need books, media or something else recommended?
Yggdrasill on scored.co
16 days ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 2 children
The Der, Das, Die part has been killing me, but also other articles like Ein. And little things like when a word gets an umlaut to indicate plural. Or von/vom and other contractions that are dependent on you knowing the gender of the word.

I’m only about 6 weeks in, so very early.

I have been doing stuff like picking up pamphlets where there’s an English version and a German version so I can compare the text and figure out the sentences.

I agree with you though, the grammar I’m already recognizing pretty well and you can sort of muck your way through that for a while. The amount of vocab is really what I need to get down.

Honestly in terms of recommendations, I think I’d benefit from childrens books, it’d be cool to get antique kids books with illustrations. Or something somewhat basic like The Hobbit in German or something. If you know of any German fairy tales or German kids/teenager books I’d probably benefit from those. I also had this old tab open for Hydra Comics, which is a German comic book maker who made a story about WWII from the German’s perspective which got a lot of praise, I was going to pick up some of their comics in German too. I feel like German comics or graphic novels would be good to learn with.
BeefyBelisarius on scored.co
16 days ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
>Honestly in terms of recommendations, I think I’d benefit from childrens books, it’d be cool to get antique kids books with illustrations.

Maybe the Brothers Grim's fairy tales? That way you can practice the language and get some classic German culture at the same time.
Yggdrasill on scored.co
16 days ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
Yeah that’s a great idea. I bet there’s awesome old versions of that as well
RacistPepe on scored.co
15 days ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
I’d recommend to do it similar to children at the start, Fairytales, lullabys then comics or books. I can assure you the hobbit is not something children read. Here is a good Sortiment of Brothers Grims: https://www.grimmstories.com/de/grimm_maerchen/favorites you can even read them side by side there https://www.grimmstories.com/language.php?grimm=026&l=de&r=en it’s just not illustrated well, for that you probably have to get physical copies of them or look around some archives: https://de.annas-archive.org/md5/08db26459704b4c4c0b4377967588ab6
Keywords are: Grimms Märchen, Bechsteins Märchen, Deutsche Sagen.

Otherwise I highly recommend the "Sonntagsmärchen" as we call it, fairy tale re-enactments that are on TV every Sunday morning: https://www.ardmediathek.de/maercheninderard?isChildContent
15 days ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
https://pomf2.lain.la/f/psspf22c.pdf
this is a good book too
BeefyBelisarius on scored.co
16 days ago 5 points (+0 / -0 / +5Score on mirror ) 1 child
Is that $200 per language, or does that give you lifetime access to all their material?
Yggdrasill on scored.co
16 days ago 7 points (+0 / -0 / +7Score on mirror )
$200 lifetime for all languages. Not bad imho
mommamany on scored.co
16 days ago 4 points (+0 / -0 / +4Score on mirror )
Good for you for bettering yourself!


This product is popular amongst us homeschooling mamas. I don't recommend a box or subscription, *but* the phrase books are really helpful. It's simple everyday phrases based on topic and there is a (free) app to accompany it to make sure you're pronouncing things correctly. It might be worth checking out. But we also like and use Rosetta Stone.


https://talkbox.mom/p_landing/german/
PeterHann13 on scored.co
16 days ago 3 points (+0 / -0 / +3Score on mirror )
Thank you. I have been wanting an honest review of RS before investing
LoveYourFolk on scored.co
16 days ago 3 points (+0 / -0 / +3Score on mirror ) 1 child
https://scored.co/p/17t1MjWXer
LoveYourFolk on scored.co
16 days ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror )
This is another approach to learning German as well. I may give it another shot. I studied a couple years and haven't picked it back up in awhile.
Formerlurker92 on scored.co
16 days ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror ) 1 child
I don't think I've paid for software in years, piracy just seems better, but a lifetime license for 200 isn't too bad.

The only question is: how fucked is the board of directors
Yggdrasill on scored.co
16 days ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror )
The $200 price was some special they were running, but I’m sure it comes around every so often. Honestly it didn’t even occur to me that a language learning program would be pirate-able but it’s basically just a flash card deck with multiple choice selections. I’m guessing the voice stuff wouldn’t work, at least without some rigging, but you don’t even really need that, you just need to hear the words spoken.
LoveYourFolk on scored.co
16 days ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror )
Thats interesting. How jewed RS I don't know. Good on you for learning new languages and improving your education.
kd5ywa on scored.co
16 days ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror ) 4 children
Duolingo
LoveYourFolk on scored.co
16 days ago 8 points (+0 / -0 / +8Score on mirror )
If you want to learn about lesbians taking a trip and miscegenated out the ASS pictures, sure, duolingo. I couldn't take it for long.
mommamany on scored.co
16 days ago 6 points (+0 / -0 / +6Score on mirror )
There is tranny trash on there. Purple hair men referred to as "she," which is particularly ridiculous in gendered languages. I don't let my children use it.
Crockett on scored.co
15 days ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror )
Gay app.

Also, I can't speak for every language, but the Latin one was absolute crap. It lacked even basic lessons in grammar. And it was extremely slow to introduce anything new. After dozens of lessons, it was still presenting almost the same material as the first few. I can't count how many times it taught me how to say "The man lives in New York City." (Why the fake translation of "New York" was among the first 20 words taught is another mystery).
Yggdrasill on scored.co
16 days ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
Oooh yeah I was like “I know there’s a third company that’s pretty well known!” I had a buddy recommend DuoLingo when I told him about trying out RS
racer513 on scored.co
15 days ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror )
I have used RS for Spanish, Russian, and Farsi. I found a need to run a parallel path with a text book and Gtranslate to understand the conjugation.
Crockett on scored.co
15 days ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
Thanks. A while ago I started trying to learn latin again (I took it in high school but never practiced since). But I fell out of the habit. I was just thinking about starting up again and along comes your post to rekindle that desire.
wellallright on scored.co
15 days ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
Personally i’m using Duolingo for German, its the same way there, in which it doesnt explain context for the differences in words.
Theres also du bist vs sind sie, both translate to “you are” but Sind Sie is the formal way, so its Sind sie (your name) vs du bist (profession)
gomera on scored.co
15 days ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 2 children
Uh... I mean it's Sie Sind vs Du Bist. 'Sind Sie' is the question form.

So : Sie sind ein Lehrer -- you're a teacher
         Sind sie ein Lehrer? -- are you a teacher?

Also -- Sie sind ein Lehrer, ja? -- you're a teacher, right?


Not to be a 'debbie downer' here... but I became fluent in German in about 2002, and until 2012 it was really great. Made lots of friends. But after the Iphone/Chick Internet took off... Germans don't want to speak German anymore. The French will still happily speak French... but Germans... it's pretty hit-or-miss -- even if you're in Germany.
15 days ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
- Sie sind ein Lehrer, oder?
  
There's always a need to simplify when learning. does 'or' me the same as 'yes' here?
gomera on scored.co
15 days ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
Yeah it does.
wellallright on scored.co
15 days ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
Much appreciated for the clarification, its little things like that that without correction, i may still be stumbling along without the full context.
15 days ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xd4NLIrFjxs
the fag playing drumguitar
15 days ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQqitJEJ_R4ond6ZV-iWrng
 
I'll always love Tom especially his balloonfart
 
 
 
 
 
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FN57 on scored.co
15 days ago -1 points (+0 / -0 / -1Score on mirror ) 2 children
If you speak English, German is just learning new vocabulary.
15 days ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
Lol
gomera on scored.co
15 days ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
The modal verbs in German are similar to those in English, which gives you a leg-up if you target modals first when learning a language (as I do).

Otherwise... nah. Learning German is effectively learning another way of existence -- as it is with every language *except* English.
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FN57 on scored.co
15 days ago -4 points (+0 / -0 / -4Score on mirror ) 1 child
Holy shit this post, out of all the posts I've seen, really indicates you all are a bunch of wannabes.
BruderTambo on scored.co
15 days ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror )
You're jewish.

What kind of man notices people peacefully discussing the merits of learning a language, and immediately denounces everyone present? Some here are bilingual, some are monolingual, and some are just interested in learning. I see no issue.

You walk into the room, refuse to contribute anything, smear your shit all over the wall, and demand that people stop being productive, because now there's shit to clean up.

It would be better if you left, clearly this is not the place for you.
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