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1 year ago-4 points(+0/-0/-4Score on mirror)4 children
So no more debt financing? Everyone pays cash or cows for everything? Save for 40 years before buying property? Have you really thought this through?
Do you know how natsoc Germany did this? They put the gov in control of all debt issuance. If the gov wanted financing they decreed it, and the banks issued it. It was massively inflationary, and the only reason it didn't get reflected in the cost of imports is because they also decreed exchange rates. But that can only work as long as trading partners consent to it. Eventually a reckoning will come, though Germany's reckoning arrived due to their foreign policy before their economic reckoning could manifest.
1 year ago3 points(+0/-0/+3Score on mirror)1 child
> Everyone pays cash or cows for everything? Save for 40 years before buying property?
Are you here to be a bombastic tard, or argue in good faith? I'm heavily leaning towards the former. You're comment history isn't inspiring. It actually appears that you're a subtle obfuscation for the kike.
If you want to talk about MEFO bills, just say you want to talk about MEFO bills. And lets not start by nefariously trying to conflate those with civilian currency and personal finance, shall we?
Any country visionary enough to change the world for the better, will have to battle the worse they're leaving behind. This includes pan-continental jewry and usury.
1 year ago-1 points(+0/-0/-1Score on mirror)1 child
I don't know what a MEFO bill is. Never heard of it.
I just want to know what the ban usury folks expect to replace our current debt financing system with. I don't understand how you can have a system of credit if lenders are not allowed to earn any profit on their lending. And if there's not supposed to be any credit or borrowing, then how do massive capital developments occur? How do you build a billion dollar car factory without debt financing?
1 year ago2 points(+0/-0/+2Score on mirror)3 children
Loans are a flat rate. They do not fluctuate or compound with interest. Here are some crude examples:
If you borrow $15,000 to build a home, you owe that loan back plus a borrowers fee of $500.
If you borrow $100,000 to build a factory, you owe that loan back plus a borrowers fee of $2000.
There is none of this current *"30 year mortgage but actually 15 years of that is going to pay kike interest"* we have now. And the current system wouldn't even necessarily be a bad thing, but wages have remained stagnant for the last 3-4 decades.
It used to be the 30 year mortgage was for people in a pinch or young people just starting out with almost nothing. The point was to get rock bottom monthly mortgage payments on the front end, so you could stabilize later and refinance down to a 15 or 10 year loan. You can still do this, it's just harder and harder with every generation.
The 30 year monthly mortgage payments aren't rock bottom anymore to allow you to save. They're standard: What people can afford along with their families and other expenses without overspending.
The entire concept is absurd anyway. Imagine taking 1/3rd of your life to pay off a small family home on standard wages. That's not a country set up for the people living in it. That's a country subverted by kike banks, compounding interest and fractional reserve jewry.
1 year ago2 points(+0/-0/+2Score on mirror)1 child
Exactly. Homes should not = 30 or 40 years of labor. 5 years maximum. It's not normal to have a lifetime mortgage, we are just used to it. Inflation is not normal, we are just used to it because that's how a fiat currency that is essentially a ponzi scheme works. Prices of things should GO DOWN throughout our lifetime as we get better and more efficient at things. Anyone who tells you inflation is healthy for an economy is brainwashed. Everything is literally backwards in our current system.
> Prices of things should GO DOWN throughout our lifetime as we get better and more efficient at things.
This right here is a MASSIVE hole in their schemes that I understood even as early as 12-13 years old. I couldn't quantify why, but it was so curious to me how much debt was involved with everything.
I understand maintenance and upkeep... but the roads are already paved, the schools are already built, the land is already plowed, the crops are already sewn, the rivers are already dredged, the factories are already constructed...
I just never understood why everything was so difficult and expensive, ESPECIALLY for newer generations moving forward into an already built society.
The reason the first 15 years is mostly interest is because people are talking out 400k loan with a 7% rate. That's 2300/mo just to pay off interest.
I just don't see anything wrong with this model. People might not have basic math skills to understand it but it's a real simple concept.
The problem is the hidden and additional fees and surcharges, the 40 pages of legalese, and of course the overspending printing and straight up laundering of money at the politics level
1 year ago-2 points(+0/-0/-2Score on mirror)1 child
That's it? That doesn't seem all that different from the current system. I have a fixed rate mortgage right now. Many people do. The loan documents told me upfront what the total amount of paid interest would be if I paid off the loan according to the 40 year term. It just sounds like you want to pay less in interest. That's fine. But shouldn't people have the freedom to negotiate the payment amount themselves? Have you considered that lenders may not want to loan you $100,000 in order to earn $2,000? A 2% return? That's pretty shit. Would you risk $100k in the hope of making $2k in profit in 40 years? I sure wouldn't. I get a better return on a savings account with no risk in 1 year.
Not everyone's wages have remained stagnant. That's the thing about inflation it does not effect an economy equally across the board. Certainly some professions have been stagnant, but others have kept up quite well.
1 year ago2 points(+0/-0/+2Score on mirror)1 child
> That's it? That doesn't seem all that different from the current system. I have a fixed rate mortgage right now. Many people do. The loan documents told me upfront what the total amount of paid interest would be if I paid off the loan according to the 40 year term.
Damn! 40 years!? Holy shit, my man lol
> It just sounds like you want to pay less in interest. That's fine.
I don't want to pay ANY interest. Fuck jews and their anti Christian ways.
> But shouldn't people have the freedom to negotiate the payment amount themselves? Have you considered that lenders may not want to loan you $100,000 in order to earn $2,000? A 2% return? That's pretty shit. Would you risk $100k in the hope of making $2k in profit in 40 years? I sure wouldn't.
You're not understanding. This isn't a private sector institution. NatSoc is a racially aware governemnt, so finance isn't an enterprise you go into with the notion of profiting off your brothers and sisters. It's not a get rich quick scheme. It's not a scheme at all. It's a government controlled institution setup for the benefit of your people. Look at israel.
It helps to view money more as a tool, rather than an all encompassing entity that only serves itself and its own enterprise. Hard to do because the latter is all we've been steeped in and know up to today.
But in a racially harmonious culture/civilization, money is simply a tool of exchange for goods and services between individuals and or business's. It doesn't need to be anything more than that, and I would argue the further you take it over that line, the more insidious and evil it becomes.
> Not everyone's wages have remained stagnant. That's the thing about inflation it does not effect an economy equally across the board. Certainly some professions have been stagnant, but others have kept up quite well.
They certainly haven't kept up with the record high inflation, or the pace of inflation in general. Maybe the top 20%-30% of jobs in society, but that's not where the bulk of the citizenry is employed.
The gap between the rich and poor continues to increase, the middle class continues to shrink, the housing market continues to inflate and you're paying $5 for a gallon of milk, $50 to fill up your 4 cylinder vehicle and inordinate increases in all taxes and services just for the (((culture))) to tell you you're an entitled White cunt while NGOing beaners and dumb niggers over your border.
1 year ago2 points(+0/-0/+2Score on mirror)1 child
The jewish central banks create money out of thin air as loans, and delete it when the loan is paid back. Usury is the charging of interest and keeping it on top of that, money that doesn't exist unless someone else takes out loans.
It's an endless cycle of debt slavery for everyone, creating money by taking out loans that can't be repaid because enough money doesn't exist.
Usury has nothing to do with private loans between individuals, its the bulk systematic creation of money through debt and charging interest on it.
A few come out on top, everyone else suffers, mathematically it's the only way.
meanwhile they keep us fighting with and blaming each other.
It's not just the central banks. All banks create money out of nothing and charge interest on it. Banking is state sanctioned fraud. But the economic impact of that system is manifestly present throughout our modern world. Our world would not exist at all if we had to spend 300 years building a skyscraper like medieval societies did with their cathedrals.
Do you know how natsoc Germany did this? They put the gov in control of all debt issuance. If the gov wanted financing they decreed it, and the banks issued it. It was massively inflationary, and the only reason it didn't get reflected in the cost of imports is because they also decreed exchange rates. But that can only work as long as trading partners consent to it. Eventually a reckoning will come, though Germany's reckoning arrived due to their foreign policy before their economic reckoning could manifest.
Are you here to be a bombastic tard, or argue in good faith? I'm heavily leaning towards the former. You're comment history isn't inspiring. It actually appears that you're a subtle obfuscation for the kike.
If you want to talk about MEFO bills, just say you want to talk about MEFO bills. And lets not start by nefariously trying to conflate those with civilian currency and personal finance, shall we?
Any country visionary enough to change the world for the better, will have to battle the worse they're leaving behind. This includes pan-continental jewry and usury.
I just want to know what the ban usury folks expect to replace our current debt financing system with. I don't understand how you can have a system of credit if lenders are not allowed to earn any profit on their lending. And if there's not supposed to be any credit or borrowing, then how do massive capital developments occur? How do you build a billion dollar car factory without debt financing?
If you borrow $15,000 to build a home, you owe that loan back plus a borrowers fee of $500.
If you borrow $100,000 to build a factory, you owe that loan back plus a borrowers fee of $2000.
There is none of this current *"30 year mortgage but actually 15 years of that is going to pay kike interest"* we have now. And the current system wouldn't even necessarily be a bad thing, but wages have remained stagnant for the last 3-4 decades.
It used to be the 30 year mortgage was for people in a pinch or young people just starting out with almost nothing. The point was to get rock bottom monthly mortgage payments on the front end, so you could stabilize later and refinance down to a 15 or 10 year loan. You can still do this, it's just harder and harder with every generation.
The 30 year monthly mortgage payments aren't rock bottom anymore to allow you to save. They're standard: What people can afford along with their families and other expenses without overspending.
The entire concept is absurd anyway. Imagine taking 1/3rd of your life to pay off a small family home on standard wages. That's not a country set up for the people living in it. That's a country subverted by kike banks, compounding interest and fractional reserve jewry.
This right here is a MASSIVE hole in their schemes that I understood even as early as 12-13 years old. I couldn't quantify why, but it was so curious to me how much debt was involved with everything.
I understand maintenance and upkeep... but the roads are already paved, the schools are already built, the land is already plowed, the crops are already sewn, the rivers are already dredged, the factories are already constructed...
I just never understood why everything was so difficult and expensive, ESPECIALLY for newer generations moving forward into an already built society.
Now I know lol
I just don't see anything wrong with this model. People might not have basic math skills to understand it but it's a real simple concept.
The problem is the hidden and additional fees and surcharges, the 40 pages of legalese, and of course the overspending printing and straight up laundering of money at the politics level
Not everyone's wages have remained stagnant. That's the thing about inflation it does not effect an economy equally across the board. Certainly some professions have been stagnant, but others have kept up quite well.
Damn! 40 years!? Holy shit, my man lol
> It just sounds like you want to pay less in interest. That's fine.
I don't want to pay ANY interest. Fuck jews and their anti Christian ways.
> But shouldn't people have the freedom to negotiate the payment amount themselves? Have you considered that lenders may not want to loan you $100,000 in order to earn $2,000? A 2% return? That's pretty shit. Would you risk $100k in the hope of making $2k in profit in 40 years? I sure wouldn't.
You're not understanding. This isn't a private sector institution. NatSoc is a racially aware governemnt, so finance isn't an enterprise you go into with the notion of profiting off your brothers and sisters. It's not a get rich quick scheme. It's not a scheme at all. It's a government controlled institution setup for the benefit of your people. Look at israel.
It helps to view money more as a tool, rather than an all encompassing entity that only serves itself and its own enterprise. Hard to do because the latter is all we've been steeped in and know up to today.
But in a racially harmonious culture/civilization, money is simply a tool of exchange for goods and services between individuals and or business's. It doesn't need to be anything more than that, and I would argue the further you take it over that line, the more insidious and evil it becomes.
> Not everyone's wages have remained stagnant. That's the thing about inflation it does not effect an economy equally across the board. Certainly some professions have been stagnant, but others have kept up quite well.
They certainly haven't kept up with the record high inflation, or the pace of inflation in general. Maybe the top 20%-30% of jobs in society, but that's not where the bulk of the citizenry is employed.
The gap between the rich and poor continues to increase, the middle class continues to shrink, the housing market continues to inflate and you're paying $5 for a gallon of milk, $50 to fill up your 4 cylinder vehicle and inordinate increases in all taxes and services just for the (((culture))) to tell you you're an entitled White cunt while NGOing beaners and dumb niggers over your border.
Is this really the hill you want to die on?
It's an endless cycle of debt slavery for everyone, creating money by taking out loans that can't be repaid because enough money doesn't exist.
Usury has nothing to do with private loans between individuals, its the bulk systematic creation of money through debt and charging interest on it.
A few come out on top, everyone else suffers, mathematically it's the only way.
meanwhile they keep us fighting with and blaming each other.