Chad fascist fencer vs virgin antifa fag
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Interestingly enough, the Encyclopedia Britannica, which I by no means consider the ultimate source or even one we should necessarily trust, says:
> Finally, scholars of fascism themselves bring to their studies different political and cultural attitudes, which often have a bearing on the importance they assign to one or another aspect of fascist ideology or practice. Secular liberals, for example, have stressed fascism’s religious roots; Roman Catholic and Protestant scholars have emphasized its secular origins; social conservatives have pointed to its “socialist” and “populist” aspects; and social radicals have noted its defense of “capitalism” and “elitism.” For these and other reasons, **there is no universally accepted definition of fascism.** https://www.britannica.com/topic/fascism/Opposition-to-parliamentary-democracy
So please DEFINE fascism (preferably in your own words, or else a definition you accept) and give me at least three examples in history.
> the Latin word fasces, which referred to a bundle of elm or birch rods (usually containing an ax) used as a symbol of penal authority in ancient Rome.
So right away, at the very root of the meaning of the word, you are giving allegiance to penal AUTHORITY. Whether this is good or bad depends on if the people in power with the power of authority have your best interests at heart. And rarely they do.
As someone who frequently listens to FASH THE NATION, I am somewhat familiar with the white nationalist's argument that fascism is what defeats jew marxism and ZOG. I am not a critic nor an advocate. It could be a situation of preferring the devil i know versus the devil i don't. I know that half of white people in America today are hateful of themselves and their own kind and therefore I should feel no comfort or peace with the mere idea that white people are in charge.
Donating tens of millions of dollars to Black Lives Matter was them "maximizing profits" ? I call bullshit.
I repeat. Jews own both wallstreet and the political parties. Jews own both corporations and government. Therefore you are living under fascism. This is obvious because Corporations carry out globalist agenda on cue, on time, in harmony, and strategically. Alex Jones gets banned from all corporations at same time. It was in collusion. Coordinated. And government coordinates with the corporations. Government even had backdoor access to twitter. How much evidence do you need? For all we know, Google and Tesla and Apple and Facebook are government organizations just pretending to be private corporations.
You live under fascism in the USA now. You don't want to admit it because some white nationalists told you that fascism would save you but you are already in fascism.
This makes no fucking sense.
We live in liberal democracy, not under fascism.
And even if we lived under fascism, that wouldn't mean that fascism is not the solution! You sound like a libtard who tries to think of a good system in abstract. What that matters is who is in charge. Fascism under the Jews would be bad, fascism under White people would be good. Communism under the Jews would be bad, communism under White people would be good. That's all there is to it. What that matters is who is in charge.
The reason fascism is the solution is because *from the current situation* you can escape only with a fascist takeover of power like Mussolini's, because there is no other way we can gain control of the institutions that have real power (media and finance) without black shirts going to corporate offices with guns and brass knuckles.
But the elections are fake, none of the politicians are truly "liberal" in the classical definition of the word, and none of your so-called representatives ever listen to a damn thing you say no matter how many times you write letters or call their office.
>The reason fascism is the solution is because from the current situation you can escape only with a fascist takeover of power like Mussolini's, because **there is no other way we can gain control of the institutions that have real power (media and finance) without black shirts going to corporate offices with guns and brass knuckles.**
As someone who used to be fairly libertarian, this is actually a good case for fascism. Libertarians are just as idealistic as communists. In reality, neither work.
Oh yes they are. The original definition is based on the French Revolution and the works of Locke and Rousseau and the rest of the Enlightenment.
Every society which is based on the famous *social contract* is, by definition, liberal. The spit of "classical liberalism" vs government intervention is much further down, as it's two different means to pursue the same liberal goals (e.g. maximizing individual prosperity). But fascism is on a completely different tree branch.
> As someone who used to be fairly libertarian, this is actually a good case for fascism. Libertarians are just as idealistic as communists. In reality, neither work.
You must not try to think of the ideal system of government in abstract. You must think of what we need right now, considering the situation we are in.
I want National Socialism because it's the only way to get rid of Jews and shitskins. If we were only White people living in this country then I would be much more liberal.
> Aren't you living under fascism now?
But i am heavily down voted.
My idea of fascism was the behind the curtain collusion of corporations and government. And in America the corporations are owned by wall street which is owned by jews. the government is owned by jews so what you have in America is Jewish Fascism that can push BLM or LGBTQ through government and all corporations collectively all at once.
So I do not have any romance for fascism since that is what I am being oppressed by now. To argue for the white nationalist fascism case you have to convince me that fascism is what is necessary and fascism suddenly becomes good if white people are in power and, knowing how backstabbing white people can be, I am not convinced that a white nationalist fascist would not sell out behind the scenes to the very same jew central bank system that effectively rules today.
Ideally we would have power as decentralized as possible. But one might then argue that a foreign super power can direct all resources and force to eliminating a decentralized collection of colonies living independently as possible and hence destroy it.
First of all: the proper use of the term "fascism" is to indicate Mussolini's political ideology. Nothing else. Hitler was not a fascist. National Socialism is not fascism, although they do share a lot of things.
Your problem is that you approach politics from an economic perspective, accepting all the liberal ideological framework that our society currently operates in. You're like a horse with blinkers. Fascism is a completely different way of looking at the world. The culture is what drives economics, not viceversa.
Under fascism corporations are expected to do the good of society. Which means that fascism rejects the class conflict that is core of both communism and capitalism. Fascism brings together the employers, workers, and the State to find a commonly beneficial outcome. Hence corporations are not allowed to exploit either consumers or workers.
> fascism suddenly becomes good if white people are in power and, knowing how backstabbing white people can be, I am not convinced that a white nationalist fascist would not sell out behind the scenes to the very same jew central bank system that effectively rules today.
Fascism is much, much superior to our current system of liberal democracy for 2 distinct and important reasons:
1) The culture of cooperation, rather than individualism and self-interest, is what makes the entire society running smooth. You cannot think of a way to organize society if you don't think of its culture. You make a big error in trying to think of the best system in the current culture. White people are the least backstabbing of all, by far. In fact it can be argued that a society with true solidarity and selfless can only be achieved by the pure Nordic race. And this is why I am a National Socialist. You can't apply National Socialism to niggers.
2) The power centralized in the hands of a fascist leader means that there's one person or one party with **responsibility**. The current system is a terrible system where the government blames parliament, each party blames each other, each voter blames the voters of the other party, etc. Meanwhile the *real power* is wielded by the media, with no accountability.
We live in the worst possible system that has ever existed, where an unknown elite of media and financial powers take all decisions without any accountability, politicians being useless disposable puppets.
If Mussolini had opened his country's border like Biden is doing now his head would have been on a spike.
I think i agree with most of what you say save for the case that we live in the absolute worst system. Surely, to be born in America is preferable to other places in the world in the 21st century.
> Under fascism corporations are expected to do the good of society. Which means that fascism rejects the class conflict that is core of both communism and capitalism. Fascism brings together the employers, workers, and the State to find a commonly beneficial outcome.
But then we get back to the same dilemma. Who gets to decide what is "commonly beneficial" ? You get the same elites hijacking and redefining what the "greater good" is.
Also, speaking of your national socialism as a solution is all null and void if jews own the central banking system. So how does a banking system work in your vision of a better nation?
In fascism you don't get any "elite", and nobody hijacks nothing. Why? Because in fascism no power is allowed to exist outside of the Party. Mussolini even forbade secret associations. There's no lobbies, sect, pressure groups, etc. and especially no different ethnicities with their own distinct interests. Even homos are forbidden because LGBT is a political group.
In fascism the Party decides everything. The advantage is that everything is done openly, with the population knowing exactly what is going on and why. Nothing is done secretly or surreptitiously. It is therefore, a more "democratic" form of government because the Party must follow the will of the masses to stay in charge. The Party takes its members from the people, so anyone who wishes to change the direction of the government can become a party member.
Fascism is right wing; meaning that the direction of the government depends on meritocracy and strength, not that everyone with a pulse has equal political power, which is an abomination.
Image that things were decided with a big riot on the streets. Us White Supremacists would go there in force, beat the shit out of antifa because we're stronger, and then be in charge.
In the current system, it's about how many women and weaklings you can convince to put a tick in your box.
> Also, speaking of your national socialism as a solution is all null and void if jews own the central banking system. So how does a banking system work in your vision of a better nation?
With National Socialism the Jews are removed from all positions of power. That's also why I'm a National Socialist (which is racially based) and not a fascist (that is more civic nationalist, although Mussolini's Italy was very homogeneous with very few Jews).
In National Socialism the banking system is based on issuing currency backed by labor. Which means that the monetary base is not inflated on a whim, but is expanded as the economy produces more real tangible output.
In any case I don't think there's a problem with the current banking system. I mean, the problem is that is in the hands of people who hate us, but there's nothing wrong with central banking per se.
You think fascism is a type of economic system and then you come up with bullshits such as:
> the people running corporations does what the government in power wants them to do so the government doesn't have to create laws to get what they want. Example. Government is forced to allow "free speech" in the US but behind the scenes they have been colluding with corporations to silence and censor people. That's fascism.
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