2 years ago22 points(+0/-0/+22Score on mirror)2 children
I don't think you understand what fascism is. What you're describing is late stage capitalism. Seriously, you sound like someone who has not read one book about this subject. If you had, you would know that under Hitler corporations had to be at their primary core a benefit to the volk, not a benefit to the shareholders fleasing the volk.
Perhaps we have different definitions. There's all kinds of ridiculous definitions and examples online that try harder in comparing a broad range of characteristics of fascism rather than succinctly saying what it is. This is because lying jews want to associate everyone they don't like with fascism and nazis. So the result is a collective body of fraudulent information that claims everyone a marxist jew doesn't like is a fascist.
Interestingly enough, the Encyclopedia Britannica, which I by no means consider the ultimate source or even one we should necessarily trust, says:
> Finally, scholars of fascism themselves bring to their studies different political and cultural attitudes, which often have a bearing on the importance they assign to one or another aspect of fascist ideology or practice. Secular liberals, for example, have stressed fascism’s religious roots; Roman Catholic and Protestant scholars have emphasized its secular origins; social conservatives have pointed to its “socialist” and “populist” aspects; and social radicals have noted its defense of “capitalism” and “elitism.” For these and other reasons, **there is no universally accepted definition of fascism.** https://www.britannica.com/topic/fascism/Opposition-to-parliamentary-democracy
So please DEFINE fascism (preferably in your own words, or else a definition you accept) and give me at least three examples in history.
> the Latin word fasces, which referred to a bundle of elm or birch rods (usually containing an ax) used as a symbol of penal authority in ancient Rome.
So right away, at the very root of the meaning of the word, you are giving allegiance to penal AUTHORITY. Whether this is good or bad depends on if the people in power with the power of authority have your best interests at heart. And rarely they do.
As someone who frequently listens to FASH THE NATION, I am somewhat familiar with the white nationalist's argument that fascism is what defeats jew marxism and ZOG. I am not a critic nor an advocate. It could be a situation of preferring the devil i know versus the devil i don't. I know that half of white people in America today are hateful of themselves and their own kind and therefore I should feel no comfort or peace with the mere idea that white people are in charge.
You are lying to yourself if you still believe corporations are only focused on maximizing profit.
Donating tens of millions of dollars to Black Lives Matter was them "maximizing profits" ? I call bullshit.
I repeat. Jews own both wallstreet and the political parties. Jews own both corporations and government. Therefore you are living under fascism. This is obvious because Corporations carry out globalist agenda on cue, on time, in harmony, and strategically. Alex Jones gets banned from all corporations at same time. It was in collusion. Coordinated. And government coordinates with the corporations. Government even had backdoor access to twitter. How much evidence do you need? For all we know, Google and Tesla and Apple and Facebook are government organizations just pretending to be private corporations.
You live under fascism in the USA now. You don't want to admit it because some white nationalists told you that fascism would save you but you are already in fascism.
2 years ago2 points(+0/-0/+2Score on mirror)1 child
> You live under fascism in the USA now. You don't want to admit it because some white nationalists told you that fascism would save you but you are already in fascism.
This makes no fucking sense.
We live in liberal democracy, not under fascism.
And even if we lived under fascism, that wouldn't mean that fascism is not the solution! You sound like a libtard who tries to think of a good system in abstract. What that matters is who is in charge. Fascism under the Jews would be bad, fascism under White people would be good. Communism under the Jews would be bad, communism under White people would be good. That's all there is to it. What that matters is who is in charge.
The reason fascism is the solution is because *from the current situation* you can escape only with a fascist takeover of power like Mussolini's, because there is no other way we can gain control of the institutions that have real power (media and finance) without black shirts going to corporate offices with guns and brass knuckles.
"fascism" implies that the population is standing together with the state, and the state is standing together with the population, to all be stronger together, but to say that the west is undergoing individual atomization would be an understatement... it's just regular old tyranny, not fascism.
2 years ago2 points(+0/-0/+2Score on mirror)2 children
That sounds like what I was getting at.
> Aren't you living under fascism now?
But i am heavily down voted.
My idea of fascism was the behind the curtain collusion of corporations and government. And in America the corporations are owned by wall street which is owned by jews. the government is owned by jews so what you have in America is Jewish Fascism that can push BLM or LGBTQ through government and all corporations collectively all at once.
So I do not have any romance for fascism since that is what I am being oppressed by now. To argue for the white nationalist fascism case you have to convince me that fascism is what is necessary and fascism suddenly becomes good if white people are in power and, knowing how backstabbing white people can be, I am not convinced that a white nationalist fascist would not sell out behind the scenes to the very same jew central bank system that effectively rules today.
Ideally we would have power as decentralized as possible. But one might then argue that a foreign super power can direct all resources and force to eliminating a decentralized collection of colonies living independently as possible and hence destroy it.
2 years ago1 point(+0/-0/+1Score on mirror)1 child
The responses that you've got from others are just nonsense, ignore them.
First of all: the proper use of the term "fascism" is to indicate Mussolini's political ideology. Nothing else. Hitler was not a fascist. National Socialism is not fascism, although they do share a lot of things.
Your problem is that you approach politics from an economic perspective, accepting all the liberal ideological framework that our society currently operates in. You're like a horse with blinkers. Fascism is a completely different way of looking at the world. The culture is what drives economics, not viceversa.
Under fascism corporations are expected to do the good of society. Which means that fascism rejects the class conflict that is core of both communism and capitalism. Fascism brings together the employers, workers, and the State to find a commonly beneficial outcome. Hence corporations are not allowed to exploit either consumers or workers.
> fascism suddenly becomes good if white people are in power and, knowing how backstabbing white people can be, I am not convinced that a white nationalist fascist would not sell out behind the scenes to the very same jew central bank system that effectively rules today.
Fascism is much, much superior to our current system of liberal democracy for 2 distinct and important reasons:
1) The culture of cooperation, rather than individualism and self-interest, is what makes the entire society running smooth. You cannot think of a way to organize society if you don't think of its culture. You make a big error in trying to think of the best system in the current culture. White people are the least backstabbing of all, by far. In fact it can be argued that a society with true solidarity and selfless can only be achieved by the pure Nordic race. And this is why I am a National Socialist. You can't apply National Socialism to niggers.
2) The power centralized in the hands of a fascist leader means that there's one person or one party with **responsibility**. The current system is a terrible system where the government blames parliament, each party blames each other, each voter blames the voters of the other party, etc. Meanwhile the *real power* is wielded by the media, with no accountability.
We live in the worst possible system that has ever existed, where an unknown elite of media and financial powers take all decisions without any accountability, politicians being useless disposable puppets.
If Mussolini had opened his country's border like Biden is doing now his head would have been on a spike.
2 years ago6 points(+0/-0/+6Score on mirror)2 children
People generally think any merger of government and corperate power is corperatism and fascism, but in corperatism the government controls the corperations and requires they operate for the good of the nation. And the nation is, of course, the people.
We live under the other type of merger, a corperatocracy, where the big banks and other major corperations use lobbying to control the government and turn the country into an economic zone for transnational elites to loot. And now western governments are actively working to destroy and replace their own people.
Good answer but I am unconvinced that government operates in subjugation to corporate power.
I remember Obama and Eric Holder kept shaking down oil companies and completely hosed BP and raided Associated Press. Government can raid and audit and leverage corporations heavily with IRS and EPA and other regulatory agencies and put up so much red and yellow tape that lobbyism won't matter.
If government wants to shut you down they send armed police who will escalate and escalate and escalate to the point of deadly force.
For example, if you did not require customers to put on masks in your own business then the government could show up and shut your business down and force you to close. If you refused then they would keep escalating the conflict to deadly violence. If you absolutely held your ground and stood guard of your restaurant and kept telling them to fuck off they would try to grab you and arrest you and if you said no you do not have the right then they would claim you are resisting arrest and the ZOGBOTS reach for their guns, kill you then say they thought it was their taser.
What keeps both corporations and government in check is the Federal Reserve Bank which is a private mafia banking cartel of lying satanic jews.
I was counting banks as corperations, since that's how they're legally organized. But I can see how you'd count them separately, since investment banks own the bulk of corperate America.
It's not banks. It's the media and institutions like universities and schools. This is what runs the nation, because they decide the culture. You can argue that financial institutions such as Blackrock also have an enormous power due to them controlling the stock market. However what they can do is limited by the culture that was set up by universities, schools, and media. For example ESG came *after* climate change was accepted as a fact, not before.
Banks have very little power. Even the Fed. What power does the Fed have? People who think banks or the Fed are in charge is because they don't truly understand how these institutions work.
You underestimate the power of monetary policy, but it's not an either/or question either, not when you consider the common thread running through the upper levels of the media, banks, universities, think tanks etc. We're just talking about different faces of tribe, after all.
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