I believe that the papacy is the head of a church (woman) referred to in prophecy as ‘the harlot who rides the beast’ and that her daughters are the protestant churches.
I know personally of plenty of people in both churches who live decent lives and sincerely believe in their church.
I believe that the positioning of Francis is a deliberate ploy to move this subversion of the messiah Jesus’ church into it’s final form, incorporating all the world religions together into a single giant unified beast religion.
This situation is, I believe, the ‘great delusion’, and has been orchestrated by the subtlest most deceptive being ever to exist starting from the earliest times, and worked into a masterpiece.
I know this is a long set of lectures, but if you truly want to understand the protestant position (of those who are in good faith) I think this is probably your best choice.
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Protestant Historicism - The Key to Daniel and Revelation - Robert Caringola
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zX4UM3wmu9E&list=PLvNU1xaiTlC2JCS0VfI1GGCDNT6Wm2j9E&index=1
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well so assuming you're not orthodox (based on the video) we would consider you to be "protestant" as well I guess (are you like independent baptist?).
interestingly I forget if we've had conversations about this before, but it seems like with the papacy being taken over, that the "pope" (who is not actually a pope from some Catholics' viewpoint) is "anti-Christ" now just like many protestants have believed for years. Yes, Francis has been calling for a need for a "New World Order". These accusations came from protestants for a while but now Catholics hold some of these views against the current "popes". It is a strange situation.
He's saying that "you can't be a Christian if..." you believe something that Christians believe. Like Christians have always been ok with people having weapons, I imagine - even to protect yourself against animals. So there's no substance to a statement that you can't be a Christian and make or own weapons.
I don't really know if this is the end of times though. I could see somehow an actual Catholic pope getting back in the Vatican for some time and the pendulum completely swinging in a different direction. It's really to me impossible to tell what the future holds. There are some things not in place for the end of times it seems, yet. I could see it go either way, they could fall in to place or fall off track for a long time.
Covid's aftermath now looks confusing in retrospect. Some people were saying it was a mark of the beast, but there were things that weren't in place for that to be true. And now it seems the plan failed for now possibly (?), things opened back up for now. But the same stuff could happen again in connection to some kind of false religion. Or maybe not, maybe things will persist for some time off in to the future.
I don’t know of any church institution that I would belong to except of course ‘the body of the believers in Christ’.
I try to follow the walk as Jesus and the apostles did.
I think part or all of the mark of the beast must involve worshipping contrary to the commandments, and therefore I don’t discount the relevance of putting one’s faith in pharmakeia, but I think there is more to come, and that the only way to be sure of salvation is simply to walk the narrow path of faith found in the Word regardless of worldly pressures.
I keep the seventh day sabbath and study scripture to try follow, as much as I can, the relevant laws and ordinances pertaining to Jesus’ instructions.
I know personally of plenty of people in both churches who live decent lives and sincerely believe in their church.
I believe that the positioning of Francis is a deliberate ploy to move this subversion of the messiah Jesus’ church into it’s final form, incorporating all the world religions together into a single giant unified beast religion.
This situation is, I believe, the ‘great delusion’, and has been orchestrated by the subtlest most deceptive being ever to exist starting from the earliest times, and worked into a masterpiece.
I know this is a long set of lectures, but if you truly want to understand the protestant position (of those who are in good faith) I think this is probably your best choice.
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Protestant Historicism - The Key to Daniel and Revelation - Robert Caringola
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zX4UM3wmu9E&list=PLvNU1xaiTlC2JCS0VfI1GGCDNT6Wm2j9E&index=1
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interestingly I forget if we've had conversations about this before, but it seems like with the papacy being taken over, that the "pope" (who is not actually a pope from some Catholics' viewpoint) is "anti-Christ" now just like many protestants have believed for years. Yes, Francis has been calling for a need for a "New World Order". These accusations came from protestants for a while but now Catholics hold some of these views against the current "popes". It is a strange situation.
He's saying that "you can't be a Christian if..." you believe something that Christians believe. Like Christians have always been ok with people having weapons, I imagine - even to protect yourself against animals. So there's no substance to a statement that you can't be a Christian and make or own weapons.
I don't really know if this is the end of times though. I could see somehow an actual Catholic pope getting back in the Vatican for some time and the pendulum completely swinging in a different direction. It's really to me impossible to tell what the future holds. There are some things not in place for the end of times it seems, yet. I could see it go either way, they could fall in to place or fall off track for a long time.
Covid's aftermath now looks confusing in retrospect. Some people were saying it was a mark of the beast, but there were things that weren't in place for that to be true. And now it seems the plan failed for now possibly (?), things opened back up for now. But the same stuff could happen again in connection to some kind of false religion. Or maybe not, maybe things will persist for some time off in to the future.
I try to follow the walk as Jesus and the apostles did.
I think part or all of the mark of the beast must involve worshipping contrary to the commandments, and therefore I don’t discount the relevance of putting one’s faith in pharmakeia, but I think there is more to come, and that the only way to be sure of salvation is simply to walk the narrow path of faith found in the Word regardless of worldly pressures.
I keep the seventh day sabbath and study scripture to try follow, as much as I can, the relevant laws and ordinances pertaining to Jesus’ instructions.