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posted 7 days ago by MickHigan2 on scored.co (+0 / -0 / +40Score on mirror )
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devotech2 on scored.co
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The whigs become the dominant power after William of Orange took control over England. They were okay with monarchy but not absolute monarchy. William of orange implemented the changes that would culminate in parliament having dominance over royalty in political affairs. This continued with the hanoverians.

The Tories of the time, were absolute monarchists who were deposed by William and went into the underground. They became the "rebels", but don't be fooled, they were reactionary and to the far right of the whigs. The Tories never became armed and dangerous revolutionaries though. That title would go to people further to the right than they were, the jacobites, who they flirted with a bit but never fully associated with. The difference between the Jacobites and the Tories was that the Tories were willing to make concessions to the deposition of James II, and did not believe in catholicism in government but believed that the Stuarts had the right to the throne due to the line of succession. The jacobites actually *were* catholic royalists who wanted a catholic absolute monarch and would not make any concessions over the issue.

But none of this has much to do with the whigs and Tories in colonial America, who didn't have anything to do with the actual whig and Torie parties. These were more arbitrary labels given to loyalists and rebels. Which is ironic, because in the UK it was mostly the opposite, though George III let the Tories back into government for the first time since William. But the *american* whigs rejected the royals and landed British gentry, which made them veer left of the American Tories. But the American whigs and Tories were closer to each other on most matters than the British whigs and Tories.
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