1 year ago17 points(+0/-0/+17Score on mirror)5 children
Friendly reminder: anything that "jumps" from animals to humans is going to be very poor at infecting humans because it's evolved for the animal's immune system, not the human's.
Low infection rate, low fatality rate, every time. The only reason Covid could have been bad is because it was made in a lab to specifically infect humans, and it still wasn't much worse than our regular flu.
1 year ago10 points(+0/-0/+10Score on mirror)1 child
And thinking about it, it's likely impossible to create a virus or disease that could kill large swaths of people. If it is supposed to be lethal, it has to spread fast and aggressively, which would reduce the incubation time. Reducing the incubation time reduces the rate of spread, improving the ability to prevent the spread, and also showing symptoms earlier. If it's airborne, it automatically loses a lot of its potential power. Every serious/deadly disease is transmitted physically via fluids, contact, etc.
In order to circumvent that, people are needed who thoroughly work on creating a virus that spreads fast, has a long incubation time and has a high lethality. For example the symptoms would have to be subtle enough, and be lethal over the span of weeks or months... like something that slowly destroys the heart, the lungs, the liver, the kidneys, the brain, etc.
Or: Which was also done in sci-fi movies, sterilization. It takes months, years, decades to figure out that someone got sterile.
Since prions are defined as a misfolded or abnormal proteins, one could argue the mRNA instructions for the spike protein are in effect instructions to create prions. The manufacturers would argue that it's according to a plan so it's not misshapen, but it's certainly not natural for humans.
Nature will correct either way, a disease doesnt *want* to be deadly, it wants to be as infective as possible, as diseases that kill of their hosts too fast will die out. Its the reason why we havent had a world wide ebola plague, because with *any* amount of hygiene it only kills off its first few hosts and then dies.
Also the prions for the disease reside in the deer's brain and spinal column, so as long as you're not eating that your chances of having anything bad happen are slim to none.
I know, but I still *really* wouldn't eat a damned thing off of a cwd deer, even if I were just about starving. I've seen testimonies of people who got CJD from eating regular venison from fucked up deer. Though I can't substantiate it, it's enough for me. Prions can enter lymph nodes via the lymphatic system connected to the brain. If a lymph node bursts (easy to do this if you shoot at something), it will contaminate everything. Thankfully CWD deer are easy to spot.
There has to be some fuckery going on for CWD to be happening though. It's some shit that barely even existed just 40 years ago. It was never seen at all until 1978. Not a natural disease. I've mostly seen it posited that it exists because of wolf culling. Wolves would naturally kill deer that had a prion before it spread (and canines are resistant to prions).
While I believe this is part of it, I don't think it's the entire reason for it. Out of thousands of years of people hunting deer, someone would have noticed weird deer before 1978, regardless of wolves. Someone would have ended up dying of a prion disease. It's statistically just about impossible, to me, that if this disease were natural, that there is absolutely no record whatsoever of people describing deer that had CWD or contracting CJD symptoms from eating deer meat. And I don't think CJD is natural either. Neither it nor anything remotely like it were described until 1920, with thousands of years of medical literature describing virtually everything else that exists.
I have this proposition to ponder: is there *something* introduced into the planet in recent times that causes the brain of certain types of mammals to short circuit and mishandle misfolded proteins? The oldest prion disease known is scrapie. Which is endemic to sheep and not transmissable to humans. No human prion diseases were ever described until 1920. No deer prion diseases until 1978. Some scant evidence for mad cow disease existed from around the same time as scrapies, but there wasn't a known disease in cattle until 1986. All really fucking recent.
1 year ago5 points(+0/-0/+5Score on mirror)1 child
It's not even a gain of function. A farmer would have to be a fucking retard to not notice cattle with mad cow disease. Pigs and chickens don't get prions and thus can't be infected by them. Even if every animal could get prions and the symptoms of the disease weren't obvious, how would deer spread the disease to pastures anyways? Maybe they could spread it to free roaming pastures, but it would be pretty easy to cull individual cattle with MCD symptoms in that scenario. Spreading it to a factory farm would be just about impossible because the cows don't interact with nature at all.
They're just grasping at straws for something else to fear monger with.
1 year ago3 points(+0/-0/+3Score on mirror)1 child
I was thinking more along the lines of:
> All meat sources are infected or at risk of infection. You must cull all livestock to slow the spread.
Whether it’s true or not, or possible, is irrelevant. They’ll just ***lie*** like they did with everything Covid and make meat prices massively inflate so more and more regular folk can’t access it.
At least that’s the angle I think they would take if they were trying something. Telling *you* you can’t eat meat anymore, but bug protein has been perfected! Eat your bugs goy
CWD is only this prevalent because there isn't enough predator pressure that hunting unfortunately isn't going to solve, and because there's too much forage for deer since there isn't enough bison.
Low infection rate, low fatality rate, every time. The only reason Covid could have been bad is because it was made in a lab to specifically infect humans, and it still wasn't much worse than our regular flu.
In order to circumvent that, people are needed who thoroughly work on creating a virus that spreads fast, has a long incubation time and has a high lethality. For example the symptoms would have to be subtle enough, and be lethal over the span of weeks or months... like something that slowly destroys the heart, the lungs, the liver, the kidneys, the brain, etc.
Or: Which was also done in sci-fi movies, sterilization. It takes months, years, decades to figure out that someone got sterile.
Not unlike prions.
Didn't conspiracy theorists claim that the vaxx causes misfolded proteins too? Interesting.
Knowing that people are hard at work to make prions more deadly and more transmittable is even scarier.
for any infectious disease.
Space is fake.
Nukes are gay.
Wake up.