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kalerg_plan on scored.co
1 year ago 7 points (+0 / -0 / +7Score on mirror ) 2 children
Sometimes the product is good but has this one weak part. Replace that on with non garbage when it breaks and it will last decades.
Brannvesen on scored.co
1 year ago 8 points (+0 / -0 / +8Score on mirror )
Yep, that's usually what (((planned obsolesce))) refers too. In case of China for instance it's pure garbage, because they suck at manufacturing, take shortcuts and cheat to save shekels on production.

Another good example of (((planned obsolesce))) is mandatory cloud connectivity for something that doesn't need to be connected at all. Yet, at any time the manufacturer can decide, now is end of life for a product you supposedly own. And suddenly it's bricked, even though the hardware is fully functional.
AgnosticTemplar on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
Or even if it's an easily replaceable part, a lot of people are willing to throw out what they have and buy a new one because they think it's easier. Like my mom said her microwave was broken because it would spark up when she ran it, what the problem was that waxed piece of cardboard over the magnatron was soaked through with grease and was causing an arc, so I went out to an appliance repair store and bought a new sheet of the stuff and fixed it for like $3. I have plenty left over should it ever happen again.
bcfromfl on scored.co
1 year ago 6 points (+0 / -0 / +6Score on mirror ) 1 child
I'm not sure if this is covered in the documentary, but I read something very interesting about planned obsolescence...or at least, lousy quality...from China. The cheap products which fail from China is a planned strategy, because China has no social security program for its massive poverty problem -- by some estimates, close to a billion citizens. The shift of the world to buying all things Chinese-made has allowed China to keep its economic engine running, because of the constant failures requiring repurchases and at least maintaining a source of income for workers. If the U.S. began building its own appliances again, for example, and/or electronics, it would be enough to tip China over the edge to disaster.
TakenusernameA on scored.co
1 year ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror )
Communist China is the biggest jewish paper tiger in human history, its a mountain of lies financed by the USA and EU and would cease to exist the moment whites realized they could make higher quality stuff at home for a little bit more (in the short term, in the long term as more manufacturing infrastructure was brought back online, automation would make manufacturing in the US cheaper than shipping stuff long distances from other countries with no quality control), but also bring back enough jobs that it would ultimately balance things out.
Formerlurker92 on scored.co
1 year ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror )
I research and am willing to pay more to avoid this, but there is so much crap out there it doesn't always work
deleted 1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
Vlad_The_Impaler on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
Remember when cell phones all had different kinds of chargers?

Then some genius got the cellphone manufacturers together and got them all to agree to micro-usb or usb-c. Stuff like that is good. Like the PCI standard in old computer systems. You didn't always need to buy a whole new computer. You could swap out a PCI card, or swap out a SD-RAM module, or change out the power supply or mother board just by turning some easy access screws.

The laptops and cellphones might be small and compact, but they do not have enough standardized protocols, ports and hubs and parts that are universal and fit, etc.

In a society where it was not just about profit, then this sort of standardization would be beneficial for repairability, modularity, efficiency.

It seems like there's still too much shit that is not universal, still too many incompatibilities, etc.

I feel like technological advancement has actually stagnated quite a bit in the last 30 years. We got the smartphones which was already predictable since old james bond movies.

Also the transportation system in America sucks. It seems that politicians and bureaucrats are too stupid and don't know what to do but to keep making highways wider and wider and wider. We have 10 lane, 12 land highways that take up a huge wide strip of land and is death trap to so many animals.

America is letting the railways fall apart. Our ports are not as efficient as they should be.

I was hoping 3D printing was going to revolutionize how we repair products, being able to 3d print replacement parts. You know how AI is all the rave in 2024 and 2025? In 2011 and 2012 all the rave was about 3D printing. The stocks all skyrocketed. It was all the rave in the media just like AI is now. Then it goes no where and they move to the next stock market sector to rally and sell you on bullshit.
RoulerBleu on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
[Here is an example of a phone made to be easy to repair and change the battery. There is no excuse why everything has to be a nightmare to access the battery or replace the screen.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IANdTEDwI8I)

I had to change my 6 years old tablet which cost about USD $350 then, not because it wasen't good enough, but because the battery is dead ( lasted probably 3000 recharge cycles from heavy use ).

Tablet has a slight bulge ( battery probably expanded ) and some glued-on letters fell off, otherwise it still works.

Changing the battery is expensive ( $100+ ) and relatively complex, delicate and risky.

A new $185 tablet was a small upgrade with more storage and has a warranty. Also, the OS will be kept up to date for a few years, whereas the tablet with a dead battery had no OS updates for a long time and some updates of programs, and new programs, are not compatible anymore. Another annying planned obsolescence.

But if changing the battery was simple and cheap, I would have done that instead to keep it a couple more years.

It looks like electronics are made with the assumption that they will be thrown into the recycle or garbage bin before the battery dies.

It's not like tablets and laptops are this new technology for which manufacturers are still playing wizardry to figure hardware layout and discover problems as they make new models ( airflow, heating, etc ). Those are relatively well understood by now and there is no shortage of ''known effective layout'' with **accessible parts** for repairs.
Vlad_The_Impaler on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
The thing about the fairphone or this other phone that i am less familiar with is they are still trying to sell you the fairphone 3, no wait the fairphone 4, no wait now we have the fairphone 5. Why not just sell upgradable parts? They just have you in the same trap. Have to buy the new fairphone which you can repair if necessary, but then they are not going to license any third party to make the parts. That means you have to go to fairphone for the replacement part and they are going to charge you a ripoff price that makes it cheaper to just buy a used phone and stick your sim card in it and move on.

I'm good at repairing things and replacing parts. It's often how i make money. So i have experience with newer shit just being built cheaper, with shorter lasting parts, with inferior parts, etc. But even the replacement parts are junk and will have as short a lifespan as the shitty part i'm replacing. On my own stuff i can rig things up. When working for customers i can't risk jerry rigging things.

Even things down to the very fucking capacitors on circuit boards are shittier than they used to be depending on brand and country of manufacture. There were a load of electronics in the early 2000s that failed due to shitty electrolytic capacitors.


The landfill is full of shit that could have been repaired. Part of the problem is how stupid and lazy people are, and the throwaway culture of theirs. Perhaps we need to charge people per the pound for all their waste that garbage trucks pickup weekly. Democrats load up large 50 gallon trashcans with fly buzzing garbage. With all their climate change hysteria they are some of the most wasteful, throwaway, too stupid to fix anything assholes on the planet. I produce so little waste that i don't need to take anything to landfill very often. Any food scraps go to animals on my farm. Anything organic i can compost. Anything that can safely burn and provide heat (cardboard) i can use. Most of my waste is actually recyclable even though most of what the county collects in recyclable waste ends up in the landfill anyways.

Grills are another thing. I see democrats use grills for one season, then when winter comes they throw it away because it has a bit of rust on it, because the grill they bought was designed to rust in less than a year. Then they just buy a new grill every year.

Or the lawn bags. People kill trees so they can make large 20 gallon size brown paper bags to put leaves in, which they should have just mulched back down into their landscape, but instead haul away to a landfill so that they can then CONSOOOOOM mulch to mulch the landscape that the twigs and leaves they hauled off could have done, all with extra brown paper bags to fuck up the environment a little bit more and kill a few more trees and waste energy and fuel and labor and time transporting brown paper bags to your big box hardware store for CONSUMPTION.

Also the canvas grocery bags? Supposedly plastic bags were too bad for the environment so cat ladies decided canvas reusable ones were more environmental. Nope. The democrat women never actually fucking reuse the things. I can't tell you how many times I see piles of 50 canvas grocery bags stacked up in garages or closets of democrats. I thought we were saving the environment? Nope. We are just consuming large heavy canvas bags and stockpiling them and wasting them instead of lightweight smaller more compact much cheaper plastic bags.

RoulerBleu on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
I do like (/s) that the government banned the plastic grocery bags I re-used for my trashcans, forcing me to buy **actual** single-use plastic bags for my trashcan, which come with an extra packaging layer.

Reusable grocery bags are also less hygenic.

Greenwashers are retarded.

Although I praise whatever phone can be easily repaired despite still having the ''get a new one every XX months'' buisness model, I never had a cellphone. It's just too expensive here to be worth it for me. If I ever get one, that thing is going to be used untill if falls apart or changing the battery is too expensive/complicated.

Upgrading a cellphone beyond shoving an SD storage card is like expecting to do CPU upgrades on a laptop. Extremely unlikely to ever happen. On many laptops you can't even upgrade the RAM.

But to stay on the subject of cellphones, you'd have to convince people to stop being consoomers who crave the latest thing and can't bear the ''suffering'' of using a 2 years old smartphone.

To me that's ridiculous. To most costumers that's apparently a priority. At least phones that can be easily repaired have a longer functional life in the second-hand market.
Vlad_The_Impaler on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
It's partly because apple or microsoft or google or other manufacturer stops upgrading the software. You see, instead of just upgrading the same operating system, they have to come out with a new "version" of the same android or apple software, which OOOPS, your old phone does not support therefore you must buy a new phone because of software shenanigans. Or else be stuck on the old operating system which will no longer get security updates and which browsers will stop working or like you said the battery that needs replacement every two years but is unfucking accessible without melting the fucking screen off the cellphone at a distinct narrow temperature range because slightly too much head will cook the screen so yeah fuck the customer. Why isn't there a law that says if an item has a battery that may need replacement within 5 years the manufacturer has to make it easily fucking accessible and replaceable?

It is a consumerist scheme. Your shit will not work in a few years and you will own nothing but old bricked cellphones and the refrigerator that bricked because it couldn't connect to a chinese server in the cloud and you have to let it scan your finger print and eye iris or else you are locked out.

Am i the only one that thought it was fucking suspicious that they put fingerprint readers on the cellphones and told you it was to lock your own device but really it is just to harvest and collect everyone's fingerprints into the CIA database.
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