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Suspicious or not, you always need to SteelMan your arguments.
It's why I don't run with the 'wooden doors'. There's as much evidence for 'wooden doors' as there are for steel doors: pictures. "Well those pictures of steel doors are fake", so couldn't the wooden door be fake? And the 'explanation' for the wooden door is that it was exactly only in one camp that was shut down and they used the gas chamber as a bomb shelter. So the argument is a weak one.
That's called Steelmanning - make a point, if you wish, but you should immediately try to debunk your own point with what your opponents will say, and then come up with a response to *that*. Think more than one move ahead (and no, simply believing a conspiracy is not 'a move ahead').
Why do I always "get in trouble" with conspiracy theorists? I just ask reasonable questions about what they believe, and if they were actually correct (or intelligent at all) they should be able to address it. But since 99% of conspiracy theorists are like, barely-retarded manual laborers doing nigger-tier brainless dumbfuck work, they're just *repeating* shit they were *told*. And if you just repeat shit you're told, and you aren't processing it but just being a parrot, you obviously do not know how to Steelman an argument: you would only be able to Steelman an argument if **someone else** told you how to Steelman it.
This is what lets you win arguments and be taken seriously. Everybody can always spot a fraud who just parrots propaganda they were fed by subhumans, AI bots, and government agencies on the internet. We can identify NPC dumbfucks on the left when they do it, and guess what, they can spot when *we* do it.
The good news is the left *also* rarely steelmans their arguments. The bad news is that the left are masters of compensating for that by wrapping their vile ideology in emotional feel-good window dressing. They make up for not being able to explain their faggoty opinions by just trying to make you feel bad for questioning them.
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Let me add that sometimes there *is* a time and place for one-dimensional dumbfuck arguments, but their use has to be surgical.
I can give you a perfect example of this: "Jet fuel can't melt steel beams".
This was always an incredibly unintelligent, low-IQ take, but it resonated 'too well' with a similarly unintelligent, low-IQ audience. This audience was so fucking uneducated and/or naive about the world that they actually ran with it without "Steelmanning" it (ironic), so when anyone who wasn't a shit-kicking manual laborer fuckwit went 'doesn't just heating up steel significantly weaken it, like, how blacksmiths can hammer horseshoes into shape?', it totally deflated any point JFCMSB was trying to make, because there was no explanation anyone could give for why they thought JFCMSB besides 'Sorry, I'm actually a gay retard and I just repeat gay retard shit that gay retards on the internet feed into my gay retard brain that I just spew out of my gay retard mouth like a gay retard'.
Nowadays, JFCMSB is actually weaponized against conspiracy theorists to shut them down, because it was something that made them all look like retards. Now it doesn't matter how nuanced your take is, JFCMSB is just thrown at you and everybody laughs and immediately ignores you.
(Also, no, the new narrative that JFCMSB was 'akshually invented by the feds to make us look stupid' is a fake cope and we all know it - if you were alive and on the internet for 9/11 you absolutely know that it was a real thing genuinely believed by most of the proto-troofers)
May I ask what sort of work you do?
I consider an auto-mechanic or an HVAC tech or an appliance repairman to be far more intelligent than your average office worker with the Bachelors in Humanities or Business Administration. Most office work is merely paper shuffling and sorting data. It's so easy that women fill up lots of these office jobs and the women are not innovative nor efficient. Any monkey who sits in front of a computer long enough can figure out an SQL database or a pivot-table. These office workers who claim they are so intelligent can't diagnose simple fucking problems on their own motor vehicles or panic when their HVAC won't kick on and aren't even intelligent enough to understand how a very basic HVAC unit and compressor works and lack the skills and intelligent to replace a single rotten deck board on their patio. They're too stupid to even understand how their own homes are constructed, yet call the people who built their homes "barely-retarded manual laborers doing nigger-tier brainless dumbfuck work."
The retarded nigger-tier brainless dumbfuck work is actually just government/university/big-Tech/corporate office workers who are the very people who usually have college degrees and believe themselves to be far more intelligent than they actually are.
You took it upon yourself to come up with the idea of some kind of job that *wasn't* manual labor, and literally all you could imagine was 'office worker who can use PowerQuery in Excel'.
You know what you didn't think up?
The job of [engineering the process to grow a gas turbine engine fan blade from a single crystal](https://www.americanscientist.org/article/each-blade-a-single-crystal).
It literally doesn't even occur to you that this is something that someone somewhere came up with. That a bunch of 'office workers' doing math and chemistry you couldn't even imagine actually invented that process.
All you can think is that the dumbass retard bolting replacement parts on the outside of the engine is 'smart', because he can turn a wrench. Holy shit, the military is *full* of people who are literally trained to do 'manual labor' like diagnosing and repairing engines. They have no idea how to build one of their own.
Do you actually believe that if we took 10,000 "HVAC technicians", and we sat them down in front of drafting software, and we told them "Without using any outside references, design an air conditioner compressor. Once you do it, we will use all the measurements, all the materials, everything you write down and build it and see if it's a functional compressor", that they would come up with anything that fucking works at all?
They may come up with something that *looks* like a compressor. But it wouldn't have the correct materials and it'd spin itself apart. Or it would seize up because the dimensions were wrong. Or it would make noise and move but because they didn't do the physics work on the fluid dynamics of airflow, it stalls or overheats and explodes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRC0dYZiRqg
Do you *actually* think an "HVAC technician" could meticulously engineer, down to the micrometer, the insane engineering inside such a device?
Get the fuck outta here. They might know 'what' a wobble plate is. There's not a chance in hell they are going to sit down and be able to do the math to design one that isn't worthless.
We had niggers doing farm work for a reason.
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Literally every single third world country's economy works on two things:
- Agriculture
- Trades/manual labor
Why the fuck do you think every shit-reeking illiterate beaner crossing the border can build a house, but they aren't designing nanoscale transistors?
Do you even know how an integrated circuit chip - like a CPU - is made?
What sets White people apart from the rest of the world is that **WE** invented the internal combustion engine. Every single nigger in Africa can keep their vehicles running, but zero of them could have designed that engine.
If you aren't (figuratively) designing an internal combustion engine, literally what makes you any different from a nigger? I can hire niggers to install an air conditioner. In fact, isn't that the entire problem with immigration? Because every nigger crossing the border is carving out these types of jobs and undercutting the native population?
If they couldn't repair cars why is there a Mexican llantera on every single street corner in Las Vegas?
It's not just "one really smart guy". There's tons of people like that out there and they're all working on their own engineering projects. Are you typing on a keyboard? Pull one of the keys out and look at it. Look at the design that the simple key uses to interface with the switch mechanism underneath it.
Every structure of the key required engineering that your average manual laborer could never do. The keyboard key was mass produced on a machine that your average manual laborer could never have conceived. It was painted with chemicals your average manual laborer could never synthesize.
You look at our world of wonder and see things like a keyboard as a sort of singular object that simply 'exists'. That's a manual laborer's view of the world.
I look at the keyboard and I think "even the simple spring that pushes the key back up after I press it, someone at some point had to come up with just the right compression force of that spring for the ideal feel of the key press, and someone had to engineer a machine that would extrude and wind that tiny spring, and someone did enormous amounts of math to come up with the exact material and shape to wind in the correct way to compress and decompress properly".
Your average ConPro farmer will think about how great he is for being a farmer and look down at the 'educated' elites with their 'fake degrees'.
Then he [pulls this thing out](https://dickey-john.com/products/moisture-testers/portable-moisture-testers/gac-500xt/), a device he utterly relies upon to tell him whether or not his crop of grain is worth anything at all, that was invented entirely by those very same elites.
Meanwhile half of the work of farming is completely computerized these days. You literally just tell the tractor where to put the tramlines and off you go.